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Reply to comment by pyrolizard11 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>That his sphere is mortals
Isn't there a god of mortals already that was worshipped by the Atmorans?
>ancestor spirit of all Nirn.
Nirn was created when he tricked the other gods into creating Nirn. That's why his heart was ripped out. Besides, the rest of the gods' realms are in Aetherius. So is the Hall of Valor, which is Shor's realm.
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Reply to comment by IactaEstoAlea in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>As to what the nature of godhood, Talos' own godhood, its relation with the "planets"
We do kind of know that. When Mannimarco becomes a god at the end of Daggerfall (via the Numidium), he does get a planet, the same as the rest of the Divines. It's not weird that Lorkhan doesn't have a planet, as he was killed. Although you could say that Mannimarco was technically dead too, being a lich.
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Reply to comment by Mobile_Appointment8 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
I know, but my point stands. He seems to only have power in Nordic myth. Also, it's Shezarr :P
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Reply to comment by Mobile_Appointment8 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
Does Lorkhan even have a sphere/identity? He is the god of the dead in Nordic mythology, but Tiber Septim probably believed in Cyrodilic mythology. Also, him becoming Lorkhan would be very "symmetrical" seeing as Lorkhan is the 9th divine.
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Reply to comment by IactaEstoAlea in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
Fair. Although I still doubt that somewhat, as apparently "normal" gods can also reshape the world. Or rather the towers can, the original one (the adamantine tower?) was created by the gods.
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Reply to comment by IactaEstoAlea in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>Nope, it gets quoted in Skyrim by Heimskr (the Talos priest preaching in Whiterun)
A part of it does, which might be a reference than actual canon.
>You don't need to take everything in the commentary as truth, but there is little reason to doubt the bit about CHIM and the transformation of Cyrodiil jungles
Provided it isn't written by someone born hundreds of years after Tiber Septim died/became a god/whatever.
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Reply to comment by IactaEstoAlea in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>From The Many-Headed Talos
Isn't that unofficial?
>From the Mythic Dawn commentaries Vol. 3
That's a bit more credible, provided you believe that Markan Camoran (or whatever his name was) is really thousands of years old.
>As to what the nature of godhood, Talos' own godhood, its relation with the "planets" and CHIM vs "true" godhood; well, we just don't have a simple definitive answer.
According to a book, Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr tried to achieve CHIM but failed.
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Reply to comment by Lost-Saint in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
The Elder Scrolls version of apotheosis.
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Reply to comment by IactaEstoAlea in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
Did he achieve CHIM? I find it far more likely he just used Numidium to become a god. Besides, isn't achieving CHIM means he's above a god? Does he even have a planet?
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Reply to comment by DeadandGonzo in TIL that there are official guidelines for muslims to perform their rituals from space since 2007, when the first malaysian astronaut join the space station. by TonahVilla
Quite a lot of astronauts are religious. And a lot turn religious after they've been to space.
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Reply to comment by cbeiser in TIL different kinds of tea (black, green, white, oolong) come from the same plant. The only difference is in how the leaves are processed. by wombat-slayer
Yeah, I am too.
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Reply to comment by redlinezo6 in TIL different kinds of tea (black, green, white, oolong) come from the same plant. The only difference is in how the leaves are processed. by wombat-slayer
It still baffles me that British people drink tea with milk.
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Reply to comment by ImmoralJester54 in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
That's my point. They didn't know what was going on. For all they knew, he could just be building housing.
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Reply to comment by stefantalpalaru in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
I don't know how many times I need to tell you that I'm not Belgian.
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Reply to comment by zebulonworkshops in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
The Soviet economy was failing pretty much immediately after WW2. Sure, it was somewhat accelerated by outside powers, but the USSR would have collapsed anyways. Especially seeing as the main reason for its collapse was them conquering every Eastern European and Central Asian country.
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Reply to comment by zebulonworkshops in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
The cold war was both countries trying to get ahead of each other and be ready for a possible war. This didn't have an impact on the general population and there's no evidence (that I know of) of a large and successful destabilisation campaign within the USSR.
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Reply to comment by stefantalpalaru in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
You know, we stopped doing that "you're responsible for your ancestors crimes" thing after the middle ages.
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Reply to comment by stefantalpalaru in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
Are you implying I'm Belgian? Even if I was, I'm sure as hell not 150 years old.
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Reply to comment by BrownMan65 in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
It's almost like communism is impossible to sustain on a scale that involves more than 50 people. Especially if these people are forced into it. The USSR destroyed itself, it had nothing to do with any other country.
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Reply to comment by stefantalpalaru in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
Saying the Belgian government was complicit because they gave him a loan is just idiotic. By all accounts, the Congo Free State was Leopold's personal property. The Belgian parliament not only had no influence or authority there, they had no insight at all to its affairs. This is like saying I'm a murderer if I buy food from South America.
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Reply to comment by crestnest in TIL The Indian dish Vindaloo originates from the Portuguese dish "Carne de Vinha D’alhos" which was brought to India by Vasco da Gama who also introduced chilli peppers to India. by memboww
>Before then, Chillies were not known in India.
Yes that is what the word "introduced" means
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Reply to comment by KruxAF in TIL Amelia Earhart and Eleanor Roosevelt once during a White House event, commandeered an airplane, and went on a joyride to Baltimore. by No_Visit8945
So because it happens elsewhere too it means this one isn't a problem? That's a pretty steep slope there, hope you don't slip on it.
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Reply to comment by KruxAF in TIL Amelia Earhart and Eleanor Roosevelt once during a White House event, commandeered an airplane, and went on a joyride to Baltimore. by No_Visit8945
Is this supposed of gotcha to "expose" me?
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Reply to comment by SnooWalruses3945 in TIL Amelia Earhart and Eleanor Roosevelt once during a White House event, commandeered an airplane, and went on a joyride to Baltimore. by No_Visit8945
You think she paid for the fuel? Ans even if she did, she got taxpayer money for her job, which included attending official functions.
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Reply to comment by pyrolizard11 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>If you mean Orkey
Yeah, he was the one I was thinking of.
>Created out of what?
No one knows.
>And why couldn't the other gods destroy Lorkhan's heart, why settle for ripping it out and throwing it down after trying?
Why not destroy Mannimarco? Because they probably can't. Either because they don't have enough power or because they are simply prevented by a natural law or something. It's also possible that they did kill Lorkhan and he only "lives" in the Nordic pantheon. It's heavily hinted that the gods are shaped by whatever religion views them. There's also Lunar Lorkhan.
There's also this: "Shor created the realm of Sovngarde with his clever magic long ago, but the trickster god has faded from our world. [...] He may even rule the realm, choosing heroes to honor according to his whims." from The Road to Sovngarde.