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JanetYellenThrowAway t1_j2bdp6z wrote

Reply to comment by lollroller in If collagen is a protein, and proteins are broken down during digestion, why would collagen or collagen supplements be beneficial? Is it just hype? by skepticated

I'm with you - collagen is great for you, I'm just here to make sure we're advocating for all dietary proteins, including collagen, especially for the folks in the cheap seats.

Anecdotally, I've been eating a very protein-rich diet for several years (averaging roughly twice what is recommended daily), and have also burned myself cooking dozens of times in that span. I have zero scarring. 🤷

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JanetYellenThrowAway t1_j2aedmr wrote

Reply to comment by lollroller in If collagen is a protein, and proteins are broken down during digestion, why would collagen or collagen supplements be beneficial? Is it just hype? by skepticated

We know that oral collagen supplementation likely does have objectively measured *effects on skin and wound healing, as is true with supplementation of other proteins, and there is a lot of clinical data that presumes that this is a result of the amino acid makeup of various proteins. I haven't seen a link in this thread that offers a lot of supporting evidence to the theory that that collagen in = collagen created, necessarily, aside from that Japanese study, which appears to have been conducted by scientists at FANCL Corporation, whose entire business is cosmetic and dietary supplements (that's not to say that the science is bad, but the conclusion is, shall we say, "less than unbiased").

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JanetYellenThrowAway t1_j29pfxe wrote

Reply to If collagen is a protein, and proteins are broken down during digestion, why would collagen or collagen supplements be beneficial? Is it just hype? by skepticated

Collagen is digested just like any other food: very simply put, your body breaks it down into its constituent parts and uses those parts in a manner that the conditions in your body demand. The thing is, a lot of tissues in your body are built from the same kinds of substances, so once you digest that collagen, there is no guarantee your body will use its constituent parts to create more collagen. That doesn't mean eating collagen is meritless: it contains valuable amino acids. But your body isn't necessarily going to use those amino acids to create the same kind of connective tissue.

Cooking meat denatures the proteins that it holds, which actually helps their bioavailability. There is the thinking that cooking the hell out of something will reduce the amount of usable protein, but I don't remember ever seeing any hard data about this.

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