LizardChaser

LizardChaser t1_j642v9g wrote

Hard no. The Taliban wanted to run that country and the population didn't care enough to stop them. This is not a situation where the population was defenseless. You're hard pressed to find any population better equipped to resist an oppressor. As far as I'm concerned, Afghanistan can figure out its problems on its own.

You didn't ask, but I feel exactly the same way about Pakistan. They spent 20 years working to destabilize Afghanistan, and if a Taliban run Afghanistan spreads violence and terrorism in Pakistan, then that's exactly what Pakistan wanted. I can't understand why we don't lump those backstabbers in with Iran.

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LizardChaser t1_j641r6h wrote

>We illegally invaded a country

Citation missing.

>kept their money

Are you, with a straight face, arguing that the U.S. obtained more money from fucking Afghanistan than it put in? Citation super fucking missing.

>especially the bit about them cheering at their return

The quote from my post was: "all but cheered as they returned." Break that down for me. Does that mean I said they cheered? Or was it a way to describe the absence of any resistance--despite being well armed and equipped--as being paramount to a welcome.

>The end goal was always to make some people in the US richer

The response to 9/11, the worst attack on the U.S. since Pearl Harbor, was to make "some people in the U.S. richer"? Do you even believe that?

>we did not go into Afghanistan to liberate it

Then why did we stay for 20 years? How does losing $230 billion into Afghanistan over 20 years make any sense if we weren't trying to make them self-sufficient? We cut bait because if they couldn't figure it out in 20 years they were never going to figure it out.

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LizardChaser t1_j60s8nn wrote

This is where I'm at. We were deployed there for 20 years, billions and billions of dollars invested, thousands of lives lost, and absolutely nothing changed. The Afghans made deals with the Taliban, did not put up any resistance, and all but cheered as they returned. Fuck that country. Now contrast that with Ukraine. I wish we had 1/10 of what we gave Afghanistan and could get it back to give Ukraine.

That is an unsalvageable culture.

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