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Moont1de t1_iy9u740 wrote

Reply to comment by trantheman713 in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

> You are correct in asserting the article does not state participants replaced red meat with poultry or fish, but the article does not explicitly state that they did not either.

In the contrast with the traditional Mediterranean diet vs the green Mediterranean diet, it was replaced with vegetables.

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Moont1de t1_iy9g1er wrote

Reply to comment by Bullet_2300 in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

> That's because you never looked, and probably never will.

I review biomedical literature daily for my job.

> A major criticism against outspoken vegans is that these are not people who considered at all the data with an open mind

Fascinating, but off-topic. I'm not vegan.

> They are people who got into veganism for moral reasons and then proceeded to only look for data that aligns with said moral inclination.

Rich coming from someone who just made two awfully wrong assumptions in a single paragraph.

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Moont1de t1_iy95h4j wrote

Reply to comment by trantheman713 in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

I misexpressed myself so I edited my comment to better reflect what I thought I had said.

The poultry and fish consumption across both MED diets is the same, but the green MED has less red meat and more vegetables.

It would make no sense (and be a terrible control) if they changed other variables beyond the one they are trying to test (red meat vs. vegetables)

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Moont1de t1_iy92o0b wrote

Reply to comment by trantheman713 in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

Then keep reading, they contrast MED (which has poultry and fish and red meat) and green MED (which has poultry and fish and more vegetables). Guess which one performed better

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Moont1de t1_iy8ut5b wrote

Reply to comment by trantheman713 in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

It does substitute red meat for mostly vegetables

> The green protein shake was partially substituted for dinner, replacing beef/poultry protein sources

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Moont1de t1_iy8urmy wrote

Reply to comment by Kalabula in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

It's likely just health benefits from weight lost, which usually is a short-term gain.

Plant-based diets are also associated with long-term gains in longevity

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Moont1de t1_iy8rcay wrote

Reply to comment by Potential_Limit_9123 in "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

I can see a short-term benefit to low carb and keto since they are diets that naturally reduce appetite and thus lead to weight loss (which, on an axis and up to a certain degree, is correlated with health benefits).

I'm yet to see a short or long term benefit to a carnivore diet

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Moont1de t1_iy8gec9 wrote

Reply to "Green Mediterranean diet” high in polyphenols and fiber can reduce that visceral fat. After 18 months, those subjected to the diet saw a visceral fat reduction of 14 percent; eaters of the Mediterranean Diet saw a 7 percent drop. Visceral fat among “healthy eaters” was reduced by 4.5 percent by Wagamaga

It's remarkable how so many fields from bromatology to nutrition to gerontology are converging on plant-based diets being healthier than their counterparts

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Moont1de t1_iy87sxb wrote

Reply to comment by fer_sure in Words for negative concepts (e.g. "bad") are replaced faster and mutate more than those for positive concepts (e.g. "good") across Indo-European languages. As a consequence, different languages have highly dissimilar words for negative concepts but not for positive concepts. by smurfyjenkins

That's an attribute of language, it has nothing to do with English besides the fact that English is a language

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Moont1de t1_iy3tv5t wrote

Reply to comment by venetian_lemon in How the Great Depression shaped people’s DNA. Researchers have found that the cells of people who were conceived during the Great Depression, which lasted from 1929 to 1939 and, at its height, saw about 25% of the US workforce unemployed, show signs of accelerated ageing. by MistWeaver80

> one would assume a perfect could be made

There really is no such thing, even traits that we often consider disorders such as ADHD or being in the Autism spectrum can lead to increased fitness under the right evolutionary pressures.

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Moont1de t1_iy3mp1t wrote

Reply to comment by Sinnsearachd in How the Great Depression shaped people’s DNA. Researchers have found that the cells of people who were conceived during the Great Depression, which lasted from 1929 to 1939 and, at its height, saw about 25% of the US workforce unemployed, show signs of accelerated ageing. by MistWeaver80

That's one of the reasons I don't think I'll ever have kids, I could not live with the fact that I - even if accidentally - caused a living being to come into an already austere world with lifelong complications

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Moont1de t1_ixujxa5 wrote

Reply to comment by brilliantdoofus85 in For most Americans, housing was a key component in personal wealth accumulation. However, racist housing policies eroded black wealth in pre-WWII American cities. Black families paid a 28% premium to buy a home on a majority white block, after which their homes lost 10% of their value. by smurfyjenkins

He contrasts individual racism to institutional racism. At no point does he make a case for racism being different than institutional racism

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Moont1de t1_ixu5h5a wrote

Reply to comment by merlinsbeers in For most Americans, housing was a key component in personal wealth accumulation. However, racist housing policies eroded black wealth in pre-WWII American cities. Black families paid a 28% premium to buy a home on a majority white block, after which their homes lost 10% of their value. by smurfyjenkins

“Keeping that people from having any power” is literally “using the government to opress them”

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Moont1de t1_ixu5bye wrote

Reply to comment by Petrochromis722 in For most Americans, housing was a key component in personal wealth accumulation. However, racist housing policies eroded black wealth in pre-WWII American cities. Black families paid a 28% premium to buy a home on a majority white block, after which their homes lost 10% of their value. by smurfyjenkins

I’m asking that user specifically, or do you agree with their “major country” definition

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Moont1de t1_ixtckf7 wrote

Reply to comment by GreatAndPowerfulNixy in For most Americans, housing was a key component in personal wealth accumulation. However, racist housing policies eroded black wealth in pre-WWII American cities. Black families paid a 28% premium to buy a home on a majority white block, after which their homes lost 10% of their value. by smurfyjenkins

I agree, we shouldn’t redefine words. The meaning of racism has always been the same: systematic oppression on the basis of race

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