No_Cook_9092

No_Cook_9092 t1_izazpny wrote

>By making a slightly different formula? Yeah, I preemptively addressed this argument by suggesting a reg to "encompass all PFAS-like compounds rather than playing whack-a-mole".

I mean how far would it go? I think now we're entering into a pretty interesting technical argument.

I'm not going to be a donkey and say that what you wrote is the regulation and stick to it to the death. But I want to point out the word like. Are there any derivatives? Are they useful and not harmful? What if they change the compound to something useful and harmless?

With the useful and harmless, it would take generations to even know right? Would regulations such as those create issues with development such as a new vaccine, or would that be granted just for emergencies?

How far would the regulation go and how much would it affect? Regulations written broadly do not really survive the courts. That's part of the problem there by the way.

Also enforcement... If sales = 1 billion and liability = 100 million. Which CEO would say no to that? There should be much much much steeper penalties involved. Not just a game of legal delay until they die because it's a cheaper bill. Yes, that's actually a legal strategy. Regulators should be able to just shut them down.

But then here we are with DuPont that holds a stranglehold on many products. Shut them down and then no more useful products and we start having exponential effects.

Just a side note, I am a socialist and an attorney too, I'm not simping for this corporation. If anything the opposite, but we are limited to the discussion with the way things are right now, sadly. Because while you and I can imagine a better future and how to get there (whether different or not) until it at least begins we're stuck with this.

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No_Cook_9092 t1_izauyxr wrote

I'm a socialist. Would you like a link?

>I wasn't aware one had been written and passed. Can you link me to it?

This is freely available on the internet. There has not been one for pfas but it is irrelevant. Any shit attorney can tell you how to sidestep it, also with the neutering of the administrative state, regulations are even more worthless nowadays.

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No_Cook_9092 t1_izaqld0 wrote

>Regulation could be written so as to encompass all of those PFAS-like compounds rather than playing whack-a-mole with specific formulas.

Right. Because this has absolutely worked so far.

>This is so vague so as not to mean anything. Would you mind expanding on what you mean here?

Seriously? Nothing, you can ignore that. Just keep voting blue. Neo liberalism will fix this.

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No_Cook_9092 t1_izadm30 wrote

What I would be making is an argument for changing the system entirely.

Do you actually think this is new? Or that DuPont didn't know? Do you think that their lawyers didn't say sales > liability cost? Or that they are one of the big proponents of tort law reform? Do you know what else is out there that you'll find out about decades from now that they know about already?

But at any rate yeah let's pass some pissant regulation and keep at it every time something harmful is discovered. Surely the problem will fix itself, if anything it'll make the voters happy.

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No_Cook_9092 t1_iz9p79u wrote

It's too late. This shit is everywhere now. You can ban it but it's just not going to do anything.

https://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20220815/rainwater-unsafe-to-drink-forever-chemicals-study

I really wish we could do something, but with the way things stand in the US. It's just going to get worse.

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No_Cook_9092 t1_iz9ob9j wrote

Wait let's not get crazy here. DuPont brings in a lot of revenue and they create jobs. I mean what's the big deal anyways. This chemical is now in everyone's drinking water?

Small price to pay for job creation I say.

Also while we're at it, we need Tort law reform. It is just ludicrous that this corporation was even liable, more so that they have to pay a dime.

Who do these "victims" think they are? They don't create jobs. They're worth peanuts to the economy.

You say cancer, I say we increase the price of cancer treatments. Because, frankly, you should only live if you can afford it.

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No_Cook_9092 t1_iy8pthr wrote

Just one point of clarification.

>So cop resigns for a reason the authorities don't allow us to know, moves to the other side of the country, and is immediately rehired as a cop.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rva/comments/z6ycx2/north_chesterfield_virginia_law_enforcement/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

He moved to a different county still in Virginia, the press release is in the comments section.

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