Totally get it, but on the Long Island sub for instance if someone asked for help like this you'd get one jerk response and mostly helpful. Seems the opposite here.

Also seems like anytime I've asked about places to bring my family on vacation in Vermont or made the mistake of asking about a place to move there I got all nasty responses. Just reeks of xenophobia and small mindedness and to be honest it's disappointing because I always saw Vermont as the friendlier and more open minded version of New Hampshire. Instead you guys come off like a bunch of angry southern rednecks who think you are your own country.

It's funny, I had wanted to move to Vermont until I read this sub. Vermonters are absolutely awful if this place is any indication, and this is from a Long Islander. Think they need to revisit for the rudest state.

https://www.longislandpress.com/2022/04/11/ms-13-associate-convicted-of-central-islip-quadruple-murder/

Point is your lame ass threat of violence isn't scaring someone from the hoods of NY man.

Nope, lived there for 10 years so I could afford the new house.

I'm not whining about it like the people in this thread are. I'm moving to a place I can afford what I want.

>Lived 10 years in a neighborhood where MS-13 carved up 4 kids with machetes down the block, shootings were a weekly occurrence, and had to have a baseball bat handy to deal with the crack heads strung out from the drug dealer living next door. Sorry bunch of country bumpkins with a military fetish doesn't really scare me.

Long Island is going to be heavily impacted by hurricanes and climate change in the coming decades. Also I want a big piece of land to have my little farmstead on, and basically impossible on Long Island. I paid 700K for a 1 Acre property here.

Yes starting my own farmstead is weird shit in the woods. I'm not some prepper, I just see Vermont as being one of the safest places to move my family to. My grandfather was a farmer and he taught me a lot and after a long career in IT, would love to get back to nature for my retirement and not have to worry about feeding myself next time some COVID like disaster comes around. You couldn't pay me to move down south for a whole plethora of reasons.

I'm sure that's some of them, but the research says hedgefunds are the biggest problem.

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https://vtdigger.org/2022/09/05/percentage-of-vermont-homes-bought-by-investors-surged-in-2021/

Building a house takes time, growing an orchard, setting the land up takes time. Plan is to retire there and have it ready to go. There is a housing shortage literally in every state, you guys aren't special.

Thanks!

Yeah, reason I'm going to buy 100 Acres + so I don't have to deal with neighbors too much. Surprised what assholes most of them seem like though. Even Long Island is a lot more welcoming and if you think housing prices are silly in Vermont, LOL.

I honestly never realized how xenophobic you guys were. Also blaming out of staters because your houses are expensive is delusional. Blame the hedge funds/Private equity buying them up, or just the general state of the market. Houses are expensive everywhere now.

Ruined what exactly, if it wasn't for vacationing, colleges, etc.. What are all these backwoods towns with zero economy going to do? Then again I'm from LI and most of us suck and forget new jersey, so I kind of get it.

>Saint Albans Town

Thanks.

Thanks. Exactly what I'm looking for.

I'm coming from Long Island, I'll play my tiny fiddle about the housing prices for you.

I'll be building the house, so don't worry not stealing one from the locals. This is literally part of my research to see what people who have lived there their whole life think. Not sure if it's reddit bias but unfortunately most Vermonters here seem like xenophobic asshats blaming their own failures in life on outsiders. However I'm not moving to Vermont for the friendly townies in fact further away from people the better. You just happen to rate the highest in the US for stability as the environment collapses on us over the next 20-30 years. I want my kids to have a safe place to go.