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Senyu t1_jeb9tr6 wrote

I agree that proof of nutrition and health must be ensured and verified before rollout. All new technological progress comes with hurdles, I have no disillusion that hydroponics and vitromeat tech has its own obstacles. However, I have faith in humanity's ability to solve those problems. I do not believe we can effectively becomes stewards of the Earth at a food production level without drastic population reduction. Our society & infrastructure is simply not geared to supporting individual made food production to meet the planet's needs. We must further develop and implement hydroponics & vitromeat in order to sustain the bulk of our population's food needs with minimal ecological costs to the planet. It has nothing to do with nature being broken or not, it's merely logistics of having a multi-billion sized population. Big Agra is most definitely broken, but even if that was resolved we still have vast amounts of people to feed and the ecological costs of traditional agriculture cannot be ignored simply because it's the way we've always done it.

We can become more effective stewards of the Earth in a general sense if we can off-load the bulk of our food needs to facilities located in every major city of the world. Traditional agriculture will still exist, most likely in a cultural preservation sense. But swaths of traditional agricultural land could be return to a natural ecological state if we implement hydroponics and vitromeat at scale.

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Senyu t1_jeb4u6p wrote

I don't see how food facilities in cities wouldn't be better than vast swaths of farmland that must transport its good. Sure, you raise an important point that there are real risks that must be addressed and of course any facility could have issues. But if the majority of the major cities in the world had food facilities then the issues of one become minimal until it's resolved given there is an overall larger net production of food.

The amount of land used by farms must decrease. While farms won't vanish entirely simply for cultural reasons they must not be solely relied on for feeding the planet in the future. Improving the food quality comes tech improvements, but farmland alone is not sufficient for our current population trajectory.

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Senyu t1_jeawd03 wrote

Why not have cell stock refreshed now and then so we aren't dependent on a single cell lineage forever? However long a stock cycle may be, we can develop processes that periodically draw fresh cell sources from animals. It's not like farm animals are simply going to disapear, but ideally we can reduce the vast number of farm animals necessary to sustain our planet's food needs.

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Senyu t1_jeavt38 wrote

Which is why technology development for this kind of stuff must be aggressively persued. If we want to avoid a rapid fluctuation in our carrying capacity we must shift away from traditional agriculture and further develop our hydroponics and vitromeat technologies. The boons are too important to ignore. We can improve processes.

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Senyu t1_jeavb9b wrote

You are greatly misunderstanding the point of coupling hydroponics and vitromeat tech if you are worried about different regional dietary practices. There is no reason why different regions of the world couldn't grow different crops and meat based off their cultural practices. Food facilities simply means more food growing options, including crops that typically aren't grown in a region because the growth environment is contained and not typically susceptible to weather. All it does is open the door to more types of food including the ones already in the region.

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Senyu t1_je8e36z wrote

If hydroponics cannot replicate the conditions necessary to grow root vegetables then some agricultural aspects can remain outside of the cultural preservation of the practice. If root vegetables are a necessity for the environment then they can be exceptions to the process of shifting the bulk of our agriculture to tech like hydroponics & vitromeat. Regardless, moving most of our traditional agriculture to hydroponics + vitromeat is a boon that cannot be ignored simply due to the outstanding ecological & ethical aspects. And with further development the economical aspect would be better than the traditional birth to slaughter/grow on vast amounts of land cycle that we currently use. The logistical cost reduction of making every major city self sustaining not only helps the environment but it gives us a very viable means to actually end world hunger in a more effective manner than our current processes. The benefits of shifting away from traditional agriculture for the bulk of our planet's food needs cannot be ignored.

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Senyu t1_jd9dape wrote

I honestly thought that'd be the route the Navy would go with their railguns, but it seems that project has been put on hold indefinitely. My guess is they value air strikes and missles more than a kinetic launcher that's costly in electricity. I think both are good, especially given the range and ammo costs of a railgun, but we'll see if it ever resumes.

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Senyu t1_it3mxv2 wrote

Or you could stand up a nuclear plant that can reliably provide surplus base load power whenever it's needed. Not only is it helpful in the event issues occur to renewables (disasters, maintenance, poor weather conditions) but it also can remove the need for natural gas. It's also a smaller footprint in space consumed compared fields of solar & wind, and ecological damage of dams is just a given. Nuclear is the cleanest source of energy available to our species, it ensures guranteed power for a long time (provided it's following all regulations, looking at you Fukishima) and if we to stop being so hesistant towards it we'd already have some up and going. Nuclear and renewables not being compatible isn't an economic decision, it's a choice to have a more limited energy portfolio.

The futher nuclear tech matures (despite all the pushback over the decades to its development & implementation) the more sensible it will be to implement alongside our other energy options simply for its reliability.

Maybe it won't happen until we can finally mass produce mini reactors, but when such a time comes there should be serious evaluation to the benefits of adopting it for all countries capable of running the plant (capable workers for employment).

Edit: also, just sell any extra nuclear power when it isn't needed.

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