SugarPlumCherry
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hot08 wrote
Reply to comment by EanaDeva in Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
Waiting for him to snap at Desperate housewives'
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hooyp wrote
Reply to comment by ronearc in Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
I second that.
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hokjq wrote
Reply to comment by DonutHoles5 in Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
Maybe, in the 2001 movie how they got back to Jarod escape and other pretenders when they previously established that the Jarod was the best of them all and that the children were phased out and Jarod was basically alone and isolated from the world with the exception to Sydney. And then suddenly there were others that Jarod socialized and worked with. That was weird.
And it is not like they didn't hit the reset button on every season premiere despite all the revelations only to put the players on the same positions all over again.
Also, no ending is also an ending. The only one we got. Nothing was resolved. All the characters stayed in their eternal limbo of doing the same thing over and over again. That can be like a time loop.
Jarod will eternally escape the Centre, Miss P will chase him (never leaving the place she hates), Sydney and Broots the same. There was not even a hint of a hope that these people can escape these destructive cycles and be remotely happy or away from that misery. Ant that can be ok, just look at how bleak was the OG Nikita.
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hnleb wrote
Reply to comment by Complete_Entry in Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
I disagree with you. The Centre mysteries is what kept it going for me. Because at the end it is Jarod's character journey after he escaped a hellhole and how he regains his humanity and how he relates to the world that is important. There also needs to be some resolution to his inner life and turmoil.
You see that also in modern procedurals like Gray's anatomy or NCIS. Yes characters are in their job setting and are resolving those mysteries, but there is also plot B with an even more important task that is their personal problems that they are trying to resolve.
How many copy pasted aimless episodes would the show last if Jarod only did random pretends and not look for his family or work on cases where Centre destroyed someone's life because of his invention?
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hn0vp wrote
Reply to comment by smesch83 in Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
Agree on Miss Parker...
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hmve9 wrote
Reply to Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
So much love for the show!
I recently re-watched, and although I love the characters very much, the show went silly as the seasons progressed. It seemed to me that every season finale was even more ridiculous than the previous in an attempt to raise up the stakes, only to return to the status quo in the first episode of the next season.
It was a good show for it's time, but I think it would have played out differently if it was made today.
For example, it was procedural tv in the sense that every episode followed almost the same formula, with the exception of the finales where the vague overarching theme converged to be somehow resolved for that season. First season was fine to have Jarod discover the world and himself, after that, for me at least it became boring and I didn't care for it. I enjoyed more his pretends when it was about dirty Centre secrets, and I think the show suffered a lot not having those showed on screen, in stead of the umpteenth time Jarod saved some poor soul. We already saw that, we have established he is mostly a good person and why he does that. Can we please move on and have a more comprehensive story about his specialness and family he so desperately tries to find. Maybe even an open confrontation w/ Centre trying to sabotage their current evil doings.
Although, I love to watch procedurals from time to time (Grey's, NCISs etc.) I feel that a mystery/sci-fi show has no legs to stand on for that kind of format. Sooner or later you have to answer those mysteries you are hooking people in and to make things interesting an to have some sense. I don't know if the writers didn't know if they'll be renewed or what added to many rehashed plots or not, but the show definitely suffers from Chris Carter effect in the sense that by the end they were making $ up.
Plot holes just grew bigger. For example, in the first season we have that the blond lady knew Jarod and MPs mom from the convent and she helped his parents hide from the Center. And Jarod has a brother who was kidnapped too. Ok, that is believable. Maybe we can build from there. But no.
Then in season two we have the genetics lab from the late 50s/early 60s who knew how much Jarod's genes were important for the Centre to steal him and their parents needed fertility doctor to make him, and they kind of forgot that he had a brother who the Center also kidnapped because he was also special. How were two people who barely could have children able to pop two more after Jarod and for Center to find them and steal one of those too? Timeline is more confusing than Teen Wolf (and anybody who's watched that can confirm how vague Derek's age is and anything to the timeline of the past).
Not to mention even more plot holes and progressive ridiculousness of season 3, 4 finales and adding supernatural element out of nowhere.
I loved Jarod/Miss Parker dichotomy and most of the characters and that was the shows strong suit and the actors really did their job very well.
SugarPlumCherry t1_j6hoxc5 wrote
Reply to comment by jadenedaj in Any love for the tv show The Pretender? by DonutHoles5
>Oh and I read that the two books explain some of the mysteries from the show, so at least there is that
There are books? Are they from the creators of the show or something akin to Star Trek Books?