Then why don’t those adjacent places have the same level of violence as nyc LA or Philly?

Yea and why would criminals register their illegal guns

When are you coming for my guns? You want citizens disarmed, you should be the one to disarm them.

Instead you’ll just hide behind the police lol

You can’t bitch and whine about police violence and then say they should be the only ones with guns.

When are you coming for my guns?

Who does the police hate? You said police are racist and willing to kill anyone without reason. Yet you support police being the only ones with the guns.

Even Marxists believe in the human right of self defense. What are you?

When are you gonna come take my guns?

So when are you disarming the cops?

You know the Nazis took all the guns away right? Right..??

Ok but you still haven’t answered how YOU are going to disarm civilians ? Are you going to personally disarm the police once civilians are disarmed?

Gun ownership is banned in Brazil and Venezuela. How are their gun crimes so high? Could it be gangs and cartels?

You’re describing a utopia. Those don’t exist. Gangs will still have their guns, so will cops. So again I’ll ask, what is your logic? Disarming law abiding citizens won’t solve the police killing civilians issue OR the gang violence issue. If other countries have “solved” this issue, why do they still have murders ? Rapes? Crime ?

Edit more importantly how are YOU going to disarm cops?

So you want cops to be the only ones with guns when they confiscate guns from civilians? Sorry just trying to understand your logic..

So police and military should have all the guns? Did you forget what happened in 2020? There’s 450 million guns in circulation and less than 200 shootings per year. That’s hardly the issue.

If you want to disarm people; you should do it. Don’t send police after people, be the example. Start with gangs and criminals first

Who’s gonna collect them? Destroy them? (Because I know it wont be YOU lolololol) If it’s the military or police, wouldn’t that make us a fascist state?

Thanks for not taking a single look at any of the links I provided and instead going back in circles.

There’s over 500 million guns in circulation in the United States. Legally registered. If we counted all of the “illegal” guns, being sold to gangs and criminals, there’s probably close to double that number.

If America were to ban guns and get rid of 500 million of them. There would still be hundreds of millions of guns in the hands of gangs and criminals and psychopaths. Violence would increase especially in cities.

In 2021 there were 42,000 gun deaths and 117 of them were mass shootings and 29,000 were suicides. That means there’s almost 13,000 MURDERS. Murders. In cities, likely to gang violence.

The “every country has done it” rhetoric is getting old. Move there then? Lol

firearms section 77.2% of mass shootings done with handguns, 22.8% with assault rifles

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More than half of gun owners in California die by suicide

more than half of gun deaths are by suicide source: CDC

The original assault weapon ban didn’t even lower violence rates source

Sure. Head on over to r/dgu and read up on how many times an “assault weapon” is used by law abiding citizens against home intruders or robberies or in instances of self defense.

The problem with the “advocacy groups” you’re mentioning is they are heavily antigun and are quite biased. DOJ and BOJ are saying baseball bats, hammers, knives and then handguns are the leading weapons used in assaults or murders. Hardly any data on assault weapons. And according to the CDC more than 60% of gun related deaths are suicides. How does an assault weapon ban help in these cases?

Data? Statistics? Columbine happened during the assault weapons ban of 94.. Chicago still had a very high murder rate (still does)

this dude broke the law and got away with it thanks to the DA

u/adhistorical7107 blocks me because he can’t handle logic

this dude broke the law and got away with it thanks to the DA

Edit: he blocks me because facts hurt his feelings

Gang members, drug dealers, and criminals won’t register their guns bro. You’re insane if you think they will lmao

buddy the gun laws didn’t stop this guy the district attorney turned his FELONY into a misdemeanor.

And you’re ignoring the fact that you could ban all guns tomorrow but criminals and gangs will still get them.

That’s what I was I wondering. I’d be curious what the DA thinks..

He would’ve been prohibited from purchasing firearms from any store, since they’d run background checks and fingerprints. Whatever guns he had prior to the 2019 incidents, he would’ve likely have had to surrendered them.

Most people don’t understand the concept that a criminal will not obey any additional laws if he isn’t already obeying the existing laws. And laws are pointless if they aren’t enforced. Both of these can be true.

more info on the shooter. his prior FELONY with a firearm was reduced to a single misdemeanor, but was still prohibited from possessing firearms

You’d have to get rid of most of our political parties then lol