Tbf I already told you that I'm optimistic about it.

I find it interesting that you can't see the overlap between the sub about collapse and the sub about the future now that both are here.

Yeah I guess that's subjective. I'm not sad for the fall of civilization, either, so to me it's also not doom and gloom. I pretty much hate the civilization we've built on the backs of more deserving humans.

Reading about western economic collapse is basically softcore erotica to me. The ecological collapse makes me sad but the economic collapse helps me sleep easy knowing that humanity will, in time, get exactly what it deserves.

Because it's a sub about the future and the future is pretty much doom and gloom. It would be a stretch to consider that FUD though. FUD is intentional. Just talking about things that are happening and scientifically predicted to happen isn't FUD.

You don't like to hear it, and that's fine. You can choose to see the world through rose colored glasses if you want, but sharing insight to what the future will likely look like isn't intentionally misleading information. It's the future reality we face.

You saying that the page talking about the future should stay away from doom and gloom is more FUD than the people posting/commenting about it.

For all we know you could be an Exxon shill going "hello fellow plebs what's all this climate change will destroy our planet talk that's kind of wack isn't it? Anyway let's all get back to work."

>Why focus on the world where you lose.

In order to make sure you don't.

We have wildly different views of what the world will look like in 2 decades lmao

When I look forward twenty years I just see fire and ashes covering centuries of poor human decision making.

Real life is like watching an incredibly slow game of Civilization play out

On one hand- racism

On the other hand- I sold dish machines and cleaning chemicals to restaurants and you'll never guess which restaurants consistently never saw a need for either.

On a third hand- I stopped trying to sell to Asian restaurants because I love their food and got tired of seeing the conditions of their kitchens and consequently never wanting to eat there again.

*This is somewhat regional. I saw less disgusting kitchens in Asian restaurants in Seattle than I did in the Midwest. Still, the worst kitchens were always Asian food. The worst of the worst? Asian buffets.

*Another side note- Seattle has the best Asian food I've ever eaten but dear God they cannot seem to make a decent pizza.

If you're wondering what the opposite side of that was, the cleanest kitchens were almost always upscale Italian restaurants and Smokehouses. That latter makes sense because they're typically owned by younger generations and they actually follow the rules. The clean places are always mom & pop, though. Chains are always gross (with the exception of Chuy's for some reason? They're incredibly clean also)