Fuck hope.

Your honesty is refreshing. Thank you.

Yeah exactly that is the hard part about practicing stoicism, knowing where you can’t push or where you should push. But personally, I see it as this: for emotional angry interactions with others I use stoicism 100%, but for personal goals I dial it back to 60%.

1. No, stoicism’s whole point is not relevance, it is to accept that which is truly out of your control like death. 2. People are born as needy babies. Not as a grown successful pioneer. And, DNA does not determine all. Effort and will determines a person greatness. A true great person would not let a doctrine such as stoicism stand in his way. Again stoicism doesn’t resonate with the freakish driven crazy achievers.

Smart philosophers, not cutting edge scientist trying do something impossible until possible. Different times, different kinds. Apples and pears. Stoicism logic is not meant for when you are trying to break through in your scientific field. Stoicism is not to hold down science. Stoicism is to keep your emotional outbursts in check and be a bit more sane, reasonable and calm. And I mean by stoicism the practical parts of stoicism. Not the fringe religious type stuff.

Bro, stoicism is a simple tool for the everyday person to not lose their sanity. The extremely driven, smart, daring, somewhat crazy pioneers are too busy to think about stoicism. They are the extreme minority. They will do what they do best. Stoicism will most likely not resonate with them.

To tie your happiness to material possessions, is so not stoicism. Virtue is the thing they want.