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asschaos OP t1_izeffif wrote
Reply to comment by AdorableBackground83 in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
The transition will be long and arduous. I also follow TVP and TZM. But there are billions of people on the Earth and practically no one is prepared or will understand what to do.
asschaos OP t1_izce84n wrote
Reply to comment by BoredGeek1996 in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
The future is certainly in a state of superposition, no doubt about that. But I disagree, the reality of the situation will be more complicated than "gradual or quick". In the future, 8+ billion people learning to live together that are all from different backgrounds and understandings will be hell.
asschaos OP t1_izccc92 wrote
Reply to comment by TemetN in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
I think you're right. The politicians, and the government, will not know what to do. Regulators around the world are already struggling to figure out how to regulate artificial intelligence. When unemployment is 30% and rising, and economic growth has stopped, and masses of people in poverty who have no purpose other than their job, the governments of the world will almost certainly collapse too.
asschaos OP t1_izcbfd7 wrote
Reply to comment by sumane12 in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
I fully expect the transition to be bad. But, bad enough to the point that we go extinct? I have more faith in humanity than that.
asschaos OP t1_izc9myn wrote
Reply to comment by sumane12 in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
I share that thought. The transition will cause an immense amount of social chaos at first. The longer that chaos persists, the longer the transition.
asschaos OP t1_izc9crk wrote
Reply to comment by DukkyDrake in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
That's a bit defeatist don't you think? You're saying that we really have no chance to peacefully transition into a sustainable and peaceful future.
asschaos OP t1_izc96ia wrote
Reply to comment by Sashinii in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
Resources could become scarce if technologies are not used properly. If we keep using the current economic system of growth and environmental destruction, we could irreversibly destroy our habitat and fail to reverse climate change. If everyone on Earth can agree to overcome capitalism and declare the world's resources as the common ownership of all humans, as well as overcome our stupidities and differences, then we have a chance to appropriately use those solar cells, nanofactories, and all other fantastic technologies to provide resource abundance.
asschaos OP t1_izc80b7 wrote
Reply to comment by CaptTheFool in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
It's either we all eventually find a way to live together in harmony on Earth or we will all die.
asschaos OP t1_izc7u0y wrote
Reply to comment by DukkyDrake in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
So, are you saying that to transition into a post-scarcity system, that we will need to democratize AGI? And thus, make AGI available for everyone? But also, doing so would doom us?
asschaos OP t1_izc71r2 wrote
Reply to comment by Sashinii in How will the transition between scarcity-based economics and post-scarcity based economics happen? by asschaos
We already have post-scarcity telecommunications, and the cost of raw materials is decreasing towards zero marginal cost, so even on our current technological trajectory, we will inevitably become near post-scarcity. But AGI will take our current technological progress and accelerate it. Do you think the nanofactory will be usable on all known materials? We can't develop post-scarcity if some resources are still literally scarce.
asschaos t1_j0jrevi wrote
Reply to comment by Rakshear in What are things a person born today will not experience or do thanks to technological advances by Foundation12a
So? We’ll still be curious and want to do experiments. How boring would life be if there’s no challenge or inquisitiveness about nature.