child_of_air
child_of_air t1_j7xcjzr wrote
Reply to comment by weakenedstrain in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
I consider white people that have high fragility and a victim mentality to be assholes. A certain type of asshole. Luckily for me, most of my neighbors have all traveled the world, and they know what Maine does and does not have to offer. We talk about it all the time actually. The majority of them are Mainers themselves, and will readily admit that there are very few good restaurants in the state that serve ethnic food. So far I've found 2. Obviously we all live in the same area, and Maine is a big place. But I haven't seen or heard that Northern Maine is bursting with intensely good restaurants either. I haven't heard many positive things about Northern Maine at all....but I remain open to it.
If someone from Maine "shits all over" the state, is it different than if I do it? I'm sure you will say yes since I'm from "away....", lol.
And really, that's what people responded to here. They are getting themselves worked up because they don't like the idea of being told that in fact, no- white people can't do everything well. Especially when they don't take the time to learn about other cultures and ethnicities before trying to do it.
You and I both know that what passes for sushi here wouldn't meet the bar in a big city, or in Japan. You pretty much admitted that.
Food is culture. If you don't know shit about the culture you are trying emulate in your food, then chances are you are going to fail. Again, I'm totally willing to be proven wrong. I've willingly gone to restaurants that said they served up "Authentic" Korean dishes when there wasn't a single Korean face anywhere to be seen. I've walked into "Japanese" places where there wasn't a single Japanese face to be seen. And the fact that I did that speaks volumes, because I supported them. I gave them a chance to wow me, and they totally didn't.
I have been proven wrong in some places. I actually went to Boston and ate wonderful Japanese food mostly run by Chinese people. But the guy had lived in Japan for over 20 years, so he knew his shit. I actually am very happy when I see this kind of thing, because to respect a culture is to know it!
I love what Maine does have to offer. It was not my first choice but I'm actually enjoying it most of the time. But you Mainers need to honest here- Ethnic food is not your strong point. You need more people of color to really do that right, and that's something you simply don't have.
Thanks for the olive branch. I'm actually a very kind person, I just get sick of the lack of cultural diversity here and then the denial that there needs to be any, and the racism that shows when there is.
child_of_air t1_j7x9ajm wrote
Reply to comment by ShroomFoot in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
Ah ha! Your white fragility is totally showing! CAUCASION PEOPLE ARE NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP. You are confusing "race", which is an unscientific label, with ethnicity. CAUCASION PEOPLE ARE MADE UP OF MULITPLE ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS. Do I really have to fucking explain this?!?
One more time, obviously you need to work on your reading comprehension skills, or lack thereof:
>I said they don't do it well
Operative word being "don't." You need to go back to college, or maybe even high school.
child_of_air t1_j7wzoqn wrote
Reply to comment by ShroomFoot in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
Clearly you have some terrible reading comprehension skills. Again:
>I never said they can't do it. I said they don't do it well
What part of this don't you understand exactly? It's pretty fucking clear, pal.
Also, racism against white people isn't a thing. You can pretend that it is, but it's not.
https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism
Also, see: https://www.issuesonline.co.uk/articles/can-white-people-experience-racism
If you think that I'm wrong, you're probably the racist. But you know, this being Maine and all..... I can't say I'd be surprised. Disappointed, but not surprised.
child_of_air t1_j7wrwqf wrote
Reply to comment by weakenedstrain in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
My neighbors and I get along just fine. In fact, they are wonderful people and we all hang out together. I love the way you totally ignored everything I said, which makes you an asshole.
child_of_air t1_j7w0oyi wrote
Reply to comment by ShroomFoot in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
I never said they can't do it. I said they don't do it well.
People of color agree with me - this includes all of my friends, family and aquaintances. Koreans for example, aren't going to go to a "Korean" restaurant run by Jake and Sam, who haven't even ever been to Korea. Nope. They will laugh and go someplace that is run by Koreans, because they want to taste a little bit of home.
Food is culture. If you don't understand the culture making the food, chances are you aren't going to get that food right. This has nothing to do with racism, and you're an idiot for thinking that it does.
White people and others telling themselves that they can serve up anything they want and do anything they want is all well and good. It's a free country and you can serve almost anything. But don't expect someone from that actual country to eat there, because they probably won't.
child_of_air t1_j7vzlr9 wrote
Reply to comment by weakenedstrain in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
How is it insulting, actually? Insulting to white people that are trying to make sushi and open up an "ethnic" restaurant? Are you next going to tell me I'm being racist against white people? (That doesn't exist by the way.)
You know, I'll try anything once. I have eaten at quite a few establishments that were run by people of a different ethnic background other than the food they were serving. I paid my money, I ate my food. I wouldn't have an issue with them if they made it right. But they don't.
If you disagree with me, you would be writing about how awesome Maine's ethnic food scene is, but you're not. I think I just touched on a nerve because Mainers are sensitive to the fact that the lack of Ethnic diversity here makes it a very bland place in a lot of ways. The food scene is just once of them. You can bury your head in the snow and pretend that it's not an issue, but it totally is. The fact that everyone got offended at my post obviously touches on that.
>In Portland, I’ve found that there’s really only one place to go to get anything approaching a decent takoyaki and slurpable udon broth.
So it's just the one then, right? LOL, I'm sure I've already found it.
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>your adopted regions local flavor.
What flavor?!? That bland flavor?! Is that what you're talking about? Is that the taste of Maine?
child_of_air t1_j7sfl0i wrote
Reply to comment by sinspirational in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
There's not much point if people start calling me names. What can you say when you have that kind of ugly leveled at you? I know that Mainers hate everyone "from away" so of course they are going to hate the fact that I said something negative about their state, regardless of whether or not it's true.
This forum in particular is very popular for pretending that Maine isn't without it's troubles. I've even heard someone defend the lack of ethnic diversity by saying that if more people of color come in, crime rates will go up! I mean, the racism is ugly and blatant.
There's nothing more that Mainers hate more than change. You're mostly a bunch of very kind and nice people, but stubborn as all fuck. You resist change as if it's 1950, and it's the most absurd thing I've ever seen.
Once more people of color actually start opening restaurants, then more locals will know what authentic ethnic food tastes like. I seriously look forward to that day, because all the white folks will have to start getting more creative and less bland.
child_of_air t1_j7se7e9 wrote
Reply to comment by sinspirational in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
I guesss you can't argue any of the points I made, huh? It's okay.
child_of_air t1_j7sctqb wrote
Reply to comment by sinspirational in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
It was never a promlematic concept. Guess what? People of different ethnic backgrounds don't go to restaurants where their own food is made by white people, or any other group, if they can actually help it. That's just a fucking fact.
Go to any big city and if you want to know if the food is good- it means that people of the same ethnic background of the food being served will be eating there. And you know, it goes both ways. I didn't like eating "Pizza" when I was in Korea, either.
Also, for the record, if I was really close minded I would have walked out of those places as soon as I got a look at at them. But I'll give anyone a chance. The problem is, they very rarely get it right.
Get over yourself.
child_of_air t1_j7sagxo wrote
Reply to comment by sinspirational in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
This is bullshit. If you've actually been to that country, then you have a point of reference. I've been to Japan, thanks.
child_of_air t1_j7s9fxx wrote
Reply to comment by weakenedstrain in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
Haha, so funny. You're the asshole.
child_of_air t1_j7s96xf wrote
Reply to comment by sinspirational in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
It's not racist. In fact, I think a bunch of white people trying to make ethnic food is cultural appropriation, espeically when they haven't been to that particular country. That's racism. When you try to pass shit off as your own but you've never been outside of Maine.
child_of_air t1_j7s924x wrote
Reply to comment by Guygan in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
People don't hate me. Thanks.
child_of_air t1_j7s8vvu wrote
Reply to comment by siebzy in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
Oh, yes! Here's a translation:
We know that most of our food isn't authentic, but we don't care because the lack of ethnic diversity in Maine is embarassing! Don't mention it, it's a sore subject!!!
child_of_air t1_j7s8kr3 wrote
Reply to comment by hedgehogrecruiter in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
Lack of Asian markets make it difficult, actually. There isn't a proper Japanese market here.
child_of_air t1_j7s8411 wrote
Reply to comment by anode_cathode in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
Behave like what exactly? Are you getting offended because I want authentic food? Seriously?!
child_of_air t1_j7xl48x wrote
Reply to comment by ShroomFoot in Takoyaki and A Proper Udon Broth by [deleted]
You called "White" an ethnicity?! You're the fucking racist idiot. Fuck off.