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huunnuuh t1_j7miwku wrote
Reply to comment by Ares6 in 'Surprise' in Canada as NYC buses migrants to border by esporx
No. Just try it. Walk into Canada without going through customs. You will be arrested. You will be given the opportunity to claim asylum. As an American, your claim would likely be rejected and you would be eventually deported.
Anyone in Canada has a right to claim asylum. Most aren't actually granted asylum though. And we simply deport people who have no legal right to be Canada. Two people are deported from Canada every hour, on average.
Don't confuse a very open immigration policy that accepts many in large numbers, with an unregulated or unrestricted immigration policy. Part of the reason Canadians are so accepting of immigration as we are, is because the system is controlled by us and we decide who gets to come as a skilled worker, and who is actually a refugee.
huunnuuh t1_j7mgrxy wrote
Reply to comment by _Maxolotl in 'Surprise' in Canada as NYC buses migrants to border by esporx
Canadian here. The majority who cross irregularly either withdraw their applications, or are denied refugee status. The large majority of applicants from certain countries (e.g. Nigeria or Mexico) are routinely denied. Refugee status is for people fleeing government persecution, not for poor people. The majority of the world is quite poor relative to Canada. Even if we were a far more generous people than we are in practice (quite stingy, really), we cannot realistically admit all of the people who want to move here because they come from impoverished countries.
Anyone can claim asylum in Canada. An American can try it if they want. Cross the border and present yourself to the nearest customs agent. You will get a government stipend of about $800 a month until you find a job, and some health care benefits... before being fast-track denied and deported.
Since we're a bureaucratic mess up here sometimes, it'll still take months. During which you can stay in Canada and get access to healthcare etc. And there's always the long-shot option that your claim of persecution, which is individually reviewed, might actually be accepted. If you can afford a plane ticket to the USA, and can cross over the Canadian border, then you can try this. Anyone can. That's what's being exploited.
There are some people fleeing persecution who would be refugees by Canadian law. We do accept quite a few of the border crossers. Chinese dissidents are a prominent source of refugees. Some people get desperate and will try anything anywhere they think they might be accepted. And Canada has a reputation as being accepting of refugees. An accurate one. Canadians are generally extremely pro-immigration, and we resettle more refugees permanently, than any other country in the world per capita. The government selects and brings tens of thousands of refugees from other parts of the world here, every year. But, bluntly, we prefer to do this on our terms.
huunnuuh t1_j7pki71 wrote
Reply to comment by Intelligent_Dance103 in 'Surprise' in Canada as NYC buses migrants to border by esporx
Living on a continent where the only land border is with the USA makes it a lot easier.
Also, the numbers are small, so techniques they can't realistically use in Europe or the USA are usable here. If they refuse to identify themselves, or refuse to go home voluntarily, and the country of origin is making deportation difficult, we just imprison people until they agree to leave. This policy has its human rights issues, but it does work.