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michal_hanu_la t1_jdq8xjf wrote
The reason we like MSG is that it indicates presence of protein. We like protein.
michal_hanu_la t1_jdgqsr1 wrote
Reply to comment by BeneficialElephant5 in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
I get that logic, but there is a dose at which, over a lifetime, they do not accumulate to a dangerous level.
There is also a dose which, when added or removed, does not make a difference compared to all the other sources.
Edit: One should also take into account that most people naturally stop eating chocolate before the age of 120. Now, question is, what is such a dose and how often do we see people getting dangerous cumulative amounts of heavy metals from chocolate?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdf9xor wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Well, if you do not see the difference, maybe I should worry about you.
But I'll just hope you will get it some day. Or maybe you should just stop eating chocolate.
michal_hanu_la t1_jdf8u0s wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
As much chocolate, you mean.
Notice I am not saying you should g drinking 100LL. I am saying that lead from chocolate almost definitely won't be what kills you, or even produces any noticeable effects.
I am also saying that learning to distinguish between those two things is important and you should consider it.
(Also, the "help and support" silliness gets old very fast. Don't do that.)
michal_hanu_la t1_jdf62j0 wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
I'm not your buddy and you keep forgetting the dose.
Chocolate fits that description, even though we know it contains very small amounts of lead. Mostly any chocolate, the darker, the more.
You can stop eating chocolate, of course, but it does not seem to cause any trouble that we would actually know of.
michal_hanu_la t1_jdf4isr wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
What was considered perfectly fine after testing it on most of the population, when the potential effects are of the kind that we watch for?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdf2zgf wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Good, but maybe think about the point about observable effects of something very common. In general.
michal_hanu_la t1_jdf0xsn wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Not sure what you're quoting, sounds like The Simpsons, but if most of the population drinks from the cistern every day and we do not notice it causing any trouble, maybe the cistern is mostly fine?
And this is the kind of trouble that we seem to be looking for?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdeznwp wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
That is, however, impossible. Some things contain lead. Including cocoa. Even if you stop eating chocolate, you have other sources of lead.
So the question becomes which of those will you focus on? I suggest those that, when eliminated, would make a substantial difference to your total exposure.
Is chocolate one of those? I doubt it.
Also, "realistic", when applied to amounts of chocolate one eats, is not that relative.
michal_hanu_la t1_jdeykzm wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Do we know the consequences of eating lead in the amounts contained in realistic doses of chocolate? Say you eat 100g of dark chocolate a day, what should you expect?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdexgaz wrote
Reply to comment by broad5ide in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Without consequences? We know the consequences of drinking suspicious water (not necessarily disgusting).
michal_hanu_la t1_jdep1np wrote
Reply to comment by idratherbeintamriel in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Honestly, I prefer Läderach, even though Lindt is just over the hill.
But https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-cadmium-in-dark-chocolate-a8480295550/ (and I don't know how trustworthy a source that is) claims it has some, too.
michal_hanu_la t1_jde168m wrote
Reply to comment by manleybones in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Yes, people keep saying that, but you have some distribution of lead levels across population and getting from 10th to 12th percentile is probably fine.
Clearly lots of people eat chocolate. Do you observe any ill effects?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdd354r wrote
Reply to comment by Amazingawesomator in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
And has anyone tested exposure at the levels of what's in the chocolate?
How does it compare to the impact from non-chocolate?
Edit: TODO(me): Get some numbers
michal_hanu_la t1_jdcwi73 wrote
Reply to comment by Amazingawesomator in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
> The threshold that is safe for human consumption when it comes to lead is zero. Yes, there is a threshold - it is 0.
That sound wrong, please do elaborate. What is your definition of safe? Do you have any source for the safe level, matching your definition?
Notice I am not saying lead is healthy, I am saying there is some level below which it is not unhealthy enough to warrant regulation.
And if you consider chocolate, what is the difference it makes to your total amount of lead?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdcnmyv wrote
Reply to comment by GhostlyRuse in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Why?
michal_hanu_la t1_jdcne3o wrote
Reply to comment by GhostlyRuse in Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Under some threshold it makes no difference to your life or to your total exposure to lead.
In practice there is no such thing as 0.
With Hersheys I would be much more worried about your life being made worse by eating bad chocolate.
michal_hanu_la t1_jdcmyw2 wrote
Reply to Hershey ‘evaluating’ if it can eliminate lead, cadmium in its chocolate: CFO by GhostlyRuse
Amount / concentration / dose matters.
Always.
We are, after all, not Californians.
michal_hanu_la t1_jbxjqoi wrote
Reply to In Truth or Consequences, N.M., leaking pipes cause millions of gallons of water to go down the drain amid drought by Thetimmybaby
(Which works out to a about 25l/s, or the equivalent of a small creek.)
michal_hanu_la t1_jbsq458 wrote
For samples with the same number of atoms (and undergoing the same type of decay) yes.
The activity means the number of times an atom decays per unit of time and the half-life is the time in which half of the atoms in a sample decay.
michal_hanu_la t1_ja94bz0 wrote
And that is why one usually uses nice headphones at work.
One can listen to one's own music and also signal that one is not to be talked at.
michal_hanu_la t1_ja8tegw wrote
Reply to TIL On Christmas Eve 1969, Francisco Macias Nguema had 186 suspected dissidents executed in the national football stadium in Malabo with the executioners dressed as Santa Claus, with the amplifiers played Mary Hopkin's song "Those Were the Days". by Osrever101
Well, who doesn't love an insane murderous dictator?
michal_hanu_la t1_ja6hqua wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Medical services plane crashed in Nevada, killing 5, after apparently breaking up mid-flight, NTSB says | CNN by 5xad0w
Blancolirio has a hypothesis about going off autopilot (for which there are many possible reasons) and spatial disorientation (which happens a lot when one is hand-flying in extreme IMC).
Of course we're all waiting for the actual investigation.
michal_hanu_la t1_j7anp7y wrote
Reply to comment by Ok-Palpitation-1371 in Step ladder mistaken for new McDonald’s at Milton Keynes shopping centre by kraven420
It seems to be a place of contradictions --- named both Milton and Keynes, a place where Marshall 1962 comes from, but also Milton Keynes.
Also:
> Crowley took Glasgow, Aziraphale had Edinburgh (neither claimed any responsibility for Milton Keynes).
michal_hanu_la t1_je4oh96 wrote
Reply to Vladimir Putin stages giant nuclear training exercise with 3,000 troops, in menacing show of strength to the West by HelpfulYoghurt
The West collectively shrugs.