Toeflop is a friend of mine, he's also a science, and sir, you are no Toeflop.

Mt Vernon. You could walk to the Walters for art.

Or you just don't buy them or let them in your house lol.

My husband basically framed it as, "Your daughter and I are in a serious relationship, we've been discussing marriage for a few months now, I'm planning on proposing soon and would appreciate your support as we move forward with our life together."

My dad appreciated the gesture, but we certainly weren't treating his approval as a requirement.

My husband had a chat with my dad, which I knew about in advance and was fine with. Iirc it was just a quick thing while doing other stuff, not a formal lunch. If Dad had some sort of bizarre tantrum and said no, it's not like we would have called it off lol.

I never saw my dad as a "gatekeeper" and I'd been living on my own for about 15 years by that point.

It was just a nice gesture from my husband to my elderly dad. Less, "do I have your permission" (ick) and more, "I'd like your support in this marriage and to be welcomed into the family."

OP probably knows their girlfriend and this dad the best, and in this relationship and family it's considered a nice gesture.

If/when your daughters are ready for marriage I imagine they and their partners will talk about what traditions to keep and what to discard.

Lmao I'm curious why this person is so convinced that going nuclear on a stranger is some kind of marital badge of pride, and that if it doesn't happen your marriage failed.

You ok? You're taking this pretty personally.

Oh whatever. You can defend your spouse in a proportionate way instead of acting like a meathead bully.

I can type with one hand and eat with the other, Sparky.

It's just...nothing.

My spouse can stick up for me without doing egregious crap like doxxing.

To me, that's like being the meathead who throws punches over every little thing. It's not loyalty, it's obnoxiousness.

That's a LOT of counter space, friend.

But I do love the image of one older lady, probably named Carol, cranking out cakes on a little island. I'd watch that show. She could solve mysteries!

Awesome. I only know one person who has made a Smith Island cake, they're notoriously tricky.

Copycat Berger cookies are probably easier.

You can grill or roast chicken drumsticks in an Old Bay marinade. Take three parts cooking oil one part cider vinegar, then Old Bay and Parsley to taste. Whisk until combined.

You can also make deviled eggs but use Old Bay for seasoning instead of paprika.

There are businesses that ship Smith Island cakes, fyi. You could also mail order Wockenfuss candy.