It’s easy to argue a point when you don’t have one

Where do you think the line between causing economic consequences with a protest and turning the voting group against you lies?

So you’re only going to answer by asking questions, gotcha.

I’m saying you need to get the voting populace on your side.

>Why does that economic disruption fail but you think the same kind of disruption on a road would work?

Care to answer?

If the reasons politicians made public policy were based on economic reasons, why haven’t we seen any major changes to the meat industry?

Protestors block roads to slaughter houses, disrupt operations at factory farms, and routinely engage in actions that screw up the daily operations of restaurants that sell meat or stores that sell animal products.

Why does that economic disruption fail but you think the same kind of disruption on a road would work?

I never said politicians care about the economy. I said politicians care about whatever their constituents care about

Blocking a road for a few hours isn’t hurting the economy in any meaningful way. It’s just angering the people you need to have on your side and giving your detractors a lot of ammunition to use against your cause.

Public perception is the entire point here. If you lose the public then it doesn’t really matter what you disrupt.

If disrupting things alone worked, why haven’t animal rights activists ever made any meaningful progress? They block trucks from entering slaughter houses and cause disruptions at restaurants or clothing stores. That’s definitely causing an economic effect so why haven’t politicians done anything?

Yes, politicians care about the economy because their constituents care about the economy. My comment was not sarcastic.

Yeah, because voters care about the economy.

And these road protests are getting the job done? Politicians don’t care about inconvenience, they care about votes. If you convince the electorate to support your cause then the politician is forced to comply. You don’t get that by pissing off locals.

Not to mention people die because of these road blockages.

Ukraine maybe asked someone to do it but I don’t think they have the capabilities to do so right now.

My money is always on Israel for something like this. Maybe at the behest of Ukraine though? Also could just be Israeli SOP of screwing Iran whenever possible

If your protest is causing innocent people to be hurt or killed, you’re doing it wrong.

The lottery is just state sponsored gambling to take advantage of low income people. They then claim it’s for the schools or something, and a little bit is, but most of it doesn’t.

r/ATBGE

Michael Scott needed this sign

Just to add to this, it’s normal for the polar ice caps or glaciers to go through melting and freezing phases. A slight increase in temperature means the melting is longer and the re-freezing is shorter so the balance is thrown off and hence the melting ice caps or disappearing glaciers