twotailedwolf

twotailedwolf t1_jdu3fkq wrote

> jiggling on my couch

That means you didn't watch it at midnight with a live cast. So you remain a rocky virgin. That's sad because the movie itself, is actually terrible. Like, its not a good movie by any measure. The plot is nonsensical and the performances, with the exception of Tim Curry, are awful. That's why going at midnight with the live audience is fun. The true experience is being part of the audience call backs and being beyond offensive. Example:

>Upon Doctor Scott's (sex tutor, ex Nazi) entrance into Frank's lab, he rolls down the ramp in his wheelchair. Brad, like the asshole he is, exclaims "Great Scott!" To which the audience would typically reply "No, its just mediocre Scott. If he was great Scott, he'd be walking down that ramp."

It is one hell of a wonderfully queer movie though whether you see it in person or masturbate at home to rocky, which what watching it at home is called. I recommend you see it live and lose your virginity as soon as possible.

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twotailedwolf t1_j9uxrvg wrote

An animator on the film suggested that the opening sequence where Puss fights the giant may have been inspired by Attack on Titan. Really though, they made a western, and westerns are great plus the setting fits since Puss is basically Zorro except he's a cat and not a fox

I'm torn about wanting more of the movie. I want to see the Wolf and the 3 Bears Crime Family get their own spinoffs but the best thing about the Wolf was how sparsely he was used and the sense of mystery around him. Making him a protagonist would take away from that. Of course, maybe they could give him that story Adler from Beastars, which was about death falling in love with a woman who's soul he has to reap.

Goldie and the Three Bears in a Guy Ritchie style heist comedy where they're completely out of their depth with the level "criming" required for the job would be pretty great though.

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twotailedwolf t1_j1vvy1c wrote

I agree it is partly his fault though the movie has the subtly of a sledgehammer and frames Keating positively. Its uncomplicated sentimental schlock.

the movie stacks the deck against us here by framing Keating as a rebel fighting against the crushing traditionalist forces of conformity at Welton. Case in point, the textbook scene, fun but manipulative. The textbook the boys are using is absurd. It has an introductory chapter about graphing the quality of poetry which Mr. Keating has them gleefully rip out. Of course we're going to root for him telling the boys to subversively rip out the dumb chapter. What if the scene was more realistic though? What if he had them rip out the imperialistic poetry of Kipling and instead study the beat poets? There is an argument to be made here, but its a messy and complicated one and Dead Poet Society strives to be simple. Its playing to a broad audience who want to feel like non-conformists and so it constantly presents you with a straw man instead.

Notice we never see Keating actually "teaching" in a traditional sense. He's more interested in influencing how the boys think, specifically that they think like him. Keating acts more like an Welton Oldboy (which he is) who went off on some grand adventure and wants to share his travels with the younger boys. He's that guy who comes back to teach at his old high school to relive his glory days and impressive impressionable teenagers (it ain't hard) rather than deal with his actual peers. However, he treats them like his university peers when arguably they're not ready for that. Picasso had to be trained classically, he needed to know what the rules were before he could break them. Keating clearly does not understand that. He received foundational knowledge about poetry and literature at Welton and then went to university where he learned how to break those rules. Now he is back to teaching to break the rules they have never learned because he SHOULD be teaching them.

I agree with OP, Keating gives an unnecessary and unrealistic sense of urgency to a bunch of high school rich kids. A more interesting movie would be willing to frame Neil's death as partly Keating's fault for manipulating the boys to think like him rather than actual teaching them to think for themselves. If you want to see a movie that actually does that well, see The Prime of Ms. Jean Brodie.

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