ok, then yes, fully agree. Crushers are fun, as long as you know what you're in for. Just childish fun. But also nothing wrong with that.

I didn't know there were different versions. But if I want bass, I still want good sound quality. So I'd rather go with some Denon headphones. Or some bass heavy iem's. My shuoer s12's for example have amazing bass if I use EQ on my PC, and boost the lows below 100 hz. Even my kz zs10 pros can do the same. It's just the mids and highs of the crushers I had were just alright. And they weren't offensive. It's just I think of these headphones as more of a gimmick. Cool if you enjoy the gimmick.