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RetLeoSECT t1_itzcrzn wrote

Everyone likes to see the Russians get their asses handed to them, but at what cost?

This is a replay of every other war. We have to dump trillions into them to "save" them. We finally have enough and leave and the country is lost to commies/fundamentalists. It's a waste of time, lives and money.

Chiden and the other political families had their kids there, raking in the money while it lasted. The country is corrupted.

We are fighting a proxy war against Russia and are walking into WW3. It ain't worth it.

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TreeEleben t1_itzdn9c wrote

Obliterating the Russian army without risking American soldiers lives is a hell of a deal. Even if it costs billions of dollars. It will save us money in the long run and diminish Russias ability to start more wars trying to seize former soviet union lands.

Ukraine has also made huge strides towards eliminating the corruption.

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historicalgeek71 t1_itzeov9 wrote

Not sure about you, but so far all we’ve been doing is providing money and arms to the Ukrainians who seem to be exceeding all expectations. And without a single U.S. soldier being deployed to Ukraine. And for all of Russia’s blustering and posturing, this war has revealed their military to be a paper tiger. I’d say the cost is worth it.

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mkt853 t1_iu021vn wrote

The ROI on this is incredible. Putin isn't stopping with Ukraine, and if people think it's expensive now, wait until Belarus decides to pop off with Poland or Russia starts using Kaliningrad to cause trouble in the Baltics or a few Russian wayward missiles miss Odesa and land in Romania and Article 5 gets invoked.

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hamhead t1_iu0aapv wrote

This is the smartest war we've ever fought. Even if we "lose", we've severely damaged Russia for peanuts.

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MaoWasaLoser t1_iu0h46r wrote

I am not too worried about Ukraine being overtaken by communists or religious nuts after the war is over. The odds of that sort of thing are pretty low.

This could be described as a proxy war with Russia, but our ROI has been very good. We're putting in some money and material and the Russian Army and Airforce are taking heavy losses while we lose nothing.

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Cinderjacket t1_itzfc3e wrote

France and the rest of Western Europe became famously overrun with communists and fundamentalists after WW2 and remain third world hellholes to this day

Edit: Jesus Christ I thought this was obvious but /s

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Pertinax126 t1_iu05pht wrote

Four of the top ten largest economies in the world are in western Europe. How are France, Germany, and the UK comparable to third world hellholes?

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Cinderjacket t1_iu06cqq wrote

Does my comment really read as not sarcastic to you?

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Pertinax126 t1_iu0a7fp wrote

It did not.

I didn't downvote your comment but it looks like I wasn't the only one that missed the sarcasm.

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hamhead t1_iu0aduw wrote

Honestly I really wasn't sure where you were going with that either.

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