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Kbts87 t1_j67s9yu wrote
Can confirm. A close friend of a family member was run over while riding his bicycle by a drunk cop, and his cop father helped to try and cover it up.
Source: https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/Former-Windsor-Locks-cop-to-serve-5-years-in-11500458.php
Putting out this kind of press release when CT cops have their own skeletons does nothing but demonstrate a lack of self awareness. And it's in really poor taste in my opinion.
Jahweez t1_j686vlg wrote
5 different departments wouldn’t hire him and he almost failed out of CCSU criminology program. Daddy got him a job though.
Lilcoqui17 t1_j68669e wrote
They just have qualified immunity to a Stamford cop yesterday for injuring someone.
IBEW3NY t1_j68c8bz wrote
Qualified immunity may soon be gone. I know it’s been on the table here for a while but I think they may take it away soon.
Lilcoqui17 t1_j68cndb wrote
They just strengthened it by accident via some bill. Idk.
fisticuffin t1_j68fkj8 wrote
surprise! his father sgt. robert koistinen, who drove him away from the scene and stopped investigators taking his blood samples at the hospital, was rehired (with back pay) by Windsor Locks less than 2 years later
catsmash t1_j69b0fw wrote
holy fucking shit.
catsmash t1_j69b5dy wrote
so, so sorry for your loss, man.
here's an article on the matter from a different source for anybody who was locked out of the paywall like i was - https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/former-cop-to-be-sentenced-on-monday/1912128/
ThemesOfMurderBears t1_j6865qd wrote
I was pretty flagrantly against body cameras for a while. But I have a friend I respect a lot that made some good arguments for them. Between that and seeing how they can be used to expose cop behavior, I am 100% on board. Mandatory body cameras for every officer.
Ideally, an independent company or companies that store and encrypt all footage, that police would have no ability to access — but that is probably a “pie in the sky” idea.
thesbaine t1_j6872n1 wrote
Why were you against body cams?
BDMayhem t1_j69heub wrote
I'm definitely in favor of body cams, but there are legitimate privacy concerns, especially if the footage is made public. The citizens with whom they interact have not consented to be recorded and may have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
They have to be implemented in the right way to meet both needs of police accountability and the general public's privacy.
tokeytime t1_j68kgto wrote
There is, in my mind, no good argument for the lack of body cameras, outside of allowing the police to have carte blanche...which isn't a good thing!
maggot_flavored t1_j68jgla wrote
How on earth could you be against body cameras? Im glad your mind changed but why would you not want it?
SFD8-4-0 t1_j6af8bs wrote
I'm in favor of body cams, but I can see why they aren't always a good thing. Cops interact with people in all kinds of situations. For instance if someone you cared about was hurt or killed in a car wreck, would you want footage of that ending up online? As long as there is a recording, there is a possibility of that recording being made public.
maggot_flavored t1_j6ao4op wrote
I’ll take that risk knowing cops can’t break the law and abuse their power.
The chance of that happening is a lot lower and well worth the possibility of a cop being a complete piece of shit
SFD8-4-0 t1_j6aql84 wrote
You remember when Kobe Bryant died in that helicopter crash, and assholes posted pics of the victims online? It's shit like that I don't want family members to have to deal with. Any it's pretty obvious that cops ARE breaking the law even with the cameras.
Like I said, on the whole cameras are a good thing, point is that they might not always be a good thing.
maggot_flavored t1_j6atbyn wrote
Im still not going to budge on that opinion that no matter what all cops should have body cams, and they should not be controlled by the cops. Can’t turn them off or tamper with them. Third party controlled.
After all, it’s my tax dollars paying these clowns
Fmy925 t1_j69fk5t wrote
Imagine being against bodycams? The delusion is real.
EmpireBooks t1_j6a92v7 wrote
unless you're in law enforcement or related to someone who is. only reason i can think of.
Lizzer1152 t1_j68bjac wrote
Not to mention cops don’t even have a duty to protect and serve. The oath is meaningless both legally and demonstrated with how they behave.
Unfairly_Banned_ t1_j68q4he wrote
Exactly, this is how these officers behaved knowing they were being recorded.
They are violent monsters who either didn't fear consequences or didn't think they were doing anything wrong.
God only knows what these monsters have done when they thought nobody was looking...
buried_lede t1_j6ebmvc wrote
They really know how to game their body cameras now. They say if not for the street camera, they might not have been able to piece this together.
They turn away, they use audio to make it sound like they are struggling when they’re not (“stop resisting!” when they’re actually lying there unconscious. ) It’s ridiculous. Sure didn’t take police long to figure that out
Sassafrass17 t1_j692542 wrote
>The CT state police have a history of protecting and covering up for their own who commit crimes on and off duty.
THANK YOU for posting this. I was just about to say: let's not talk about the cops who abuse their families, do drugs, STEAL EVIDENCE (drugs) and an array of other things..yet you say sorry but let's see how much shit YOU'VE possibly covered up
>This is a hollow statement, but the fact that they felt the need to issue it means they're actually a little worried about the repercussions of what happened in Memphis
This is exactly what's happening. I have a close friend who is a US Marshall and she informed me that individual cops are about to be held accountable for their actions now.. ever since the shit with Floyd and how everything is being recorded, there's about to be a "You're on you're own" abundance about to happen...
Fmy925 t1_j69fgip wrote
Thanks for pointing this out.
absurd-bird-turd t1_j69bb2t wrote
My neighbor used to be a cop for a neighboring town. One day on his way home he was drinking and driving and the police in my town pulled him over. Obviously it was all hush hush and word didnt get out. He didnt get into any trouble and he “retired” from the force shortly after. Everyone in the neighborhood knew about it however and we all look at him different. Nowadays hes a security guard
buried_lede t1_j66oqkd wrote
This is coming from the people who are too timid to arrest their own troopers for shoplifting or running people off the road? Who lobbied for FOI exemptions and softer accountability? What hypocrisy. They can stuff it.
Rovella is a liar who doesn’t keep his word to anyone, including victims
Unfairly_Banned_ t1_j67am8s wrote
I'm so fucking sick of cops being held to a lower standard than the average citizen.
buried_lede t1_j67bhze wrote
Supposedly one of the Memphis officers is from CT
pavlee14 t1_j67lxsj wrote
Can confirm this is true
Lilcoqui17 t1_j68682y wrote
He’s from Bloomfield. Class of 2008.
L-V-4-2-6 t1_j68q3xy wrote
And yet they're exempt from the vast majority of gun control laws, including here in CT.
Unfairly_Banned_ t1_j68tkj5 wrote
Laws for thee, but not for me!
USMC_Valhalla t1_j68zx6d wrote
Everyone is exempt from gun laws as they're all unconstitutional.
L-V-4-2-6 t1_j690uo4 wrote
Things like feature bans, mag capacity limits, the NFA etc? Yeah, those are unconstitutional. Things like taking gun rights away from a convicted murderer, or the laws in place that prohibit a person convicted of domestic violence from legally buying a gun? Not so much.
TreeEleben t1_j690x9i wrote
The constitution means nothing in Connecticut. We charge money before rights apply. They aren't rights if you have to buy them from the government.
TheTowerBard t1_j672sbr wrote
So are they bringing charges against the gang of cops in New Haven that paralyzed Randy Cox?…
Nyrfan2017 t1_j6738ww wrote
There has been charges filed I believe around Nov
TheTowerBard t1_j673o08 wrote
Thank you. I’d missed this. Just read an article though after seeing your comment. I’m glad they’ve been charged. Currently they are on leave until trial it sounds like.
Nyrfan2017 t1_j687ijj wrote
Yeah .. so change is happening these officers are starting to be held responsible .. I think the next change that needs to be made is as someone mentioned there should be a lis to hold the posisition and that lis should have required annual training mental health reviews and stuff ..
thriftshopmusketeer t1_j677wzr wrote
There is no "oath to protect and serve", as affirmed by the "justice" system. The police have no obligation to protecto OR serve you, only to keep you in line. These guys are getting torched because they made it too obvious and endangered the racket.
billybobwillyt t1_j68clb3 wrote
To protect and serve was painted on LA police cruisers after seventeen year old kid came up with it. It isn't based on any mandate or rule anywhere. It's a PR device.
emptytheprisons t1_j696z6y wrote
In fact SCOTUS ruled that the police have no obligation to protect people. Idk what we're paying them for but apparently it isn't to protect us!
chongo_md t1_j66scl7 wrote
oh thank god for these thoughts and prayers
james_otter t1_j673uov wrote
Maybe they should vet the people who get to be blue thugs and train them more than 3-6 month in other countries you need 3 years before you can be in duty
Unfairly_Banned_ t1_j67akne wrote
Why do lawyers need 4-8 years of schooling to practice law if you only need 6 months of training to enforce it at gunpoint?
Jenaxu t1_j67d83d wrote
The entire thing needs to be completely overhauled tbh. It requires exactly 0 months of training to know that you don't need to beat to death a guy who can't even fucking defend himself anymore.
SadiesUncle t1_j67fn9x wrote
this will never happen thanks to the Fraternal Order of Police.
i’ll never get past the irony that the venn diagram of people who defend cops and people who hate unions is usually a circle
Nyrfan2017 t1_j68817j wrote
There is away and it’s by emailing and calling elected officals it’s by when civil rights groups have a plate form now with social media start endorsing candidates and stating what officals are not supporting the cause and getting thousands to vote them up . That’s how change will happen.
james_otter t1_j67jheh wrote
Yes that’s why I said they need to be vetted first, now in the US every power hungry asshole can be police in 6 months and “enforce” the law.
LordBarvis t1_j66usz7 wrote
surely more training or reform is needed so the cops will know not to beat people to death
No-Coast-Punk t1_j67ezd2 wrote
Why would you take away one of the few incentives people have to be cops?
PoorInCT t1_j66lfai wrote
Because CT cops qualified immunity was taken away?
"If you cant BEAT them, join them"
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buried_lede t1_j66ow16 wrote
It wasn’t though. They hammered the life out of that bill. And CT tort law lets them do anything.
If anything, the bill created a new category of immunity and more protections, by accident. A lot of tired people got pushed around in a n all night session of the legislature. Connecticut police get away with a lot of corruption because they don’t shoot people as much as they do in, say, Texas or Alabama, or some counties in California, etc
Try holding one accountable. Good luck
Lilcoqui17 t1_j686abx wrote
That’s not true. They just ruled to give a Stamford cop immunity for pushing someone and injuring them.
Unfairly_Banned_ t1_j68qgvq wrote
So it's not assault to push someone causing injury anymore?
Or is there a massive and blatant double standard that society just ignores for some reason???
RamTuff4bi4 t1_j68yinr wrote
Actually, you made a great point. When you're not arrested or detained, why are cops allowed to put their hands on you? You see it all the time. There was stupid article about guy not wanting to tip a robot operated bar in Vegas and one line that stuck out as a sore thumb was an officer put a hand on his shoulder......they wanted to talk to him outside of the loud bar. Similar situation a witness to something in CT bar fight maybe, similar like an officer put his hand on the witnesses back to move him to a quiet location. Whatever the reason is they seem to be allowed to touch you whenever they want you. You touch them even friendly touch is a crime, or you touch anyone it can be treated as an assault. Makes no sense to me.
Lilcoqui17 t1_j68r1nz wrote
As long as you wear a badge, you qualify for immunity.
buried_lede t1_j6ecyg4 wrote
Well there could be some applications of the new law. What do you mean the officer was given immunity, though, do you mean he was denied immunity and the case against him can go forward?
B1NG_P0T t1_j6764up wrote
Fuck off with your thoughts and prayers.
OpelSmith t1_j672t1c wrote
that's a lot of letters and words to just say ACAB
MV203 t1_j685c2o wrote
I was pulled out in front of by a Mercedes while on my motorcycle and broke my foot. The Bridgeport police censored the drivers insurance to protect him from litigation. The Bridgeport police are acting like a criminal gang.
bigclams t1_j688se7 wrote
Don't forget officer James Bouley of Bridgeport PD who murdered a fifteen year old boy a few years back and lied about the incident leading to no criminal investigation
JoThMa36 t1_j690zix wrote
Lol murdered? That scum bag stole a car and then went on a joy ride through BPT. Then hit Boulay with said stolen car. He didn't lie about the investigation nor did the cameras or witnesses. Thank God he's still employed by the BPTPD..
IWantOneSpatula t1_j66seff wrote
Color me shocked.
More thoughts and prayers from the bad guys.
shockwave_supernova t1_j67jl3o wrote
What a strong, brave stance. I’m sure those thoughts and prayers will really make a change. You know, as opposed to leading by example and making fundamental changes to the way CT does policing. Or we can keep breaking peoples’ necks in the back of police vans
Lilcoqui17 t1_j67x5w1 wrote
Protest at 1pm in Hartford
TreeEleben t1_j6917ny wrote
Sadly any protest will result in legislation to keep other protests from happening again.
Lilcoqui17 t1_j691g4n wrote
They said that before and SB16 died pretty quickly last year.
ewqdsacxziopjklbnm t1_j675a6t wrote
The rest of them are guilty and hiding behind this fucking statement. They created the environment that provided the outcome. They are not innocent. These people honestly believed they would get away with this with body cams. Fucking says something. Fuck the police. And that’s coming from someone who went to police explorers for years and went to Hartford police academy during the summers. Fuck the whole system. It’s broken.
SlammySlam712 t1_j6712f9 wrote
I’ll be impressed when they own up to all their shitty murderous actions
andrewkingswood t1_j68b1a5 wrote
Don’t believe it. Copaganda.
silverado-z71 t1_j68gikr wrote
Well, they did offer thoughts and prayers, so that should really make it all better 🙄
TminusTech t1_j67ftsz wrote
Bro the staties are straight up drug traffickers.
PsyrusTheGreat t1_j672fcq wrote
hmmm hm...
We're not good with you yet though, so you all can keep this to yourself.
Avarice21 t1_j68fi82 wrote
I don't believe you
HighJeanette t1_j68fjie wrote
Fucking cops.
Headstone_Blank t1_j68j9l1 wrote
If they had called for the original three cops who pulled Nichols out of the car to also be charged I might have believed they were sincere. It's insane to me how no one is talking about that.
PewSeaLiquor t1_j68k074 wrote
Did they spend two whole minutes on those few sentences?? Thanks for the complete lack of effort
Fuck the police. They are class traitors at best, hateful racist jack booted thugs at worst. Those whe enforce laws should be held to a much higher standard. They elected to take the responsibility, no one forced them to become a pig.
BluenotesBb t1_j68l06s wrote
Fire them. Now.
Derpsly27 t1_j68n1mo wrote
They were fired.
Life in prison, general population. NOW
BluenotesBb t1_j6az5jo wrote
Agreed.
rollsroyce1961 t1_j691yn1 wrote
They should the maximum penalty just like any other citizen
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Hojo53 t1_j68nq73 wrote
*every day
bunkerbash t1_j68pd8c wrote
They’ll continue to harass, intimidate, assault, and murder the Connecticut public. And they’ll continue to shut down the state to throw themselves parades. They have all the power and whatever lip service they spew, they know it. The lawmakers support the police because they’re rich and the police only exist to protect the assets of the rich and the anti-worker system that further bloats their bank accounts. ACAB
mikemikemikeandike t1_j68q7c3 wrote
“Thoughts and prayers”
When the hell are people going to stop with the platitudes?
AtomicPeacenik t1_j699kqk wrote
Connecticut State Police murdered a teenager I went to GWCC with. Never knew him personally but his name was Mubarak Soulemane. They chased him and shot him under an overpass in West Haven. Until Officer Brian North is behind bars I do not give a damn what CT Troopers think about bad police officers. They are themselves bad police officers.
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warchiefwilly t1_j6a8ino wrote
Oh good, for a moment I thought we wouldn't get their thoughts and prayers.
EmpireBooks t1_j6ab9qa wrote
When my grandson came of age, i told him the true story that my High School had 2 real trouble makers. As Sophomores they were the only ones with cars, already shaving, 18 years old, multiple suspensions from school for fighting. Both went on to be police in my town. I wanted him to understand that just because someone is a policeman don't assume he's a good guy. I think and hope these kinds of cops are in the minority but the whole blue group takes the hit because even the good ones cover for the bad ones. They bring this on themselves.
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numitoke t1_j68yo8n wrote
Why do people who think the police are bad and should be defunded also think the government should disarm the people?
Do you not see the ignorance of your ways yet?
TreeEleben t1_j6920m8 wrote
The people who want to disarm the population need the police to do the disarming. You need a ton of people with guns to enforce laws against guns. Those against guns ignore how racist and dangerous police are because their belief system relies on police being on their side.
Witchyloner t1_j68zpk1 wrote
Ugh please 🙄
im_intj t1_j6800xq wrote
We need the cops weapons to be restricted just as much as the citizens of the state and country. Let's see what they can do with black powered weapons.
TreeEleben t1_j691gnt wrote
Connecticut let's them buy any guns they want for personal use. The government will never restrict the guns police families are allowed to own.
Correct-Potential25 t1_j66y3s2 wrote
Cant wait to see the opinions of everyone who are in fairfield county vs actual hartford on here.
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roo-ster t1_j68iywg wrote
You’re learning. Individuals can be racist but it can also be reinforced by wealth and class divisions. This happens in part because racism has been incorporated into many societal institutions, as has been throughout our history.
These facts are collectively the boogeyman that right wing lunatics fear, called CRT.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j66hios wrote
What's different about this police killing?
Why isn't CSP and all police doing the usual "hrmm reasonable fear for their lives, isolated incident, internal matter" act?
coolducklingcool t1_j66nn7c wrote
Because the hour of footage makes it pretty clear it’s indefensible.
slipperyrock4 t1_j66m0kx wrote
Did you watch it? Those 5 cops beat Tyre Nichols to death.
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AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j66s8k3 wrote
Not yet. We've been hearing and reading and seeing and singing about police beating a black body to death while he begged for his mother, it feels like, every year for decades. Just not sure I need more videos to visualize the story, after reading some of tonight's reporting. I'll maybe read the arrest warrant and the ME report, like the others, maybe a judicial order, if something unexpected happens in court, I'll look for the video later to see if any of these piglets cry at their sentencing.
I think it's nice to see some unity in condemning police treatment toward certain men. I also think I know why for some people it's super easy, damn near convenient, to demand justice this time, otherwise I might ask what took so long? Nobody has to trip over themselves or even do one backflip for these five, just lit them up.
Makes me sad.
>Check out the message in a rough stylee The real criminals are the see-O-P You check for undercover and the one PD But just a mere Black man, them want check me Them check out me car for it shine like the sun But them jealous or them vexed cause them can't afford one
>Black people still slaves up 'til today But the Black police officer nah see it that way Him want a salary Him want it So he put on a badge and kill people for it
>My grandfather had to deal with the cops My great-grandfather dealt with the cops My great grandfather had to deal with the cops And then my great, great, great, great, when it's gonna stop?! Woop-woop, That's the sound of da police, that's the sound of the beast
- KRS One (Knowledge Reins Supreme Over Nearly Everyone).
Smart dude, KRS.
scottieducati t1_j66suuc wrote
https://vimeo.com/cityofmemphis
Watch em all. Every fucking second and come back here.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j66tvkf wrote
Nah dude. You watch that shit. I'll watch it if I get called to sit on the jury. Otherwise I've seen enough.
Danimal_House t1_j66y4kj wrote
So you won’t watch it, but you’ll have plenty of opinions on it anyway? Okay bro. Makes sense. You wrote a very long comment about a thing you don’t even watch. Got it.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j676c3h wrote
Is this your first one?
callahanconnor t1_j66ytiy wrote
Most informed redditor
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j676d5h wrote
Your first time seeing this sort of thing?
roo-ster t1_j68hwwe wrote
Does the information you gleaned from witnessing a car accident apply to all car accidents?
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j68p7d3 wrote
I don't think such a general analogy really fits. It's more like I've witnessed not one car accident, but dozens of the same kind of car accident and hundreds of similar ones, and read the accident reports and autopsy reports, and also have degrees in each driving science and driving law.
roo-ster t1_j68pl61 wrote
> I've witnessed ... dozens of the same kind of car accident
You haven't seen the facts of this incident so that's something you can't know.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j68pym0 wrote
Black guy beat to death by multiple cops while he begged for his mom.
I know I've seen that too many times.
roborob11 t1_j675zxk wrote
Go away
ZaggahZiggler t1_j66kf5i wrote
Because this is a unanimous "what the fuck, assholes?" opinion held by police country world wide. No cop can condone this gangland style beating.
MyGodItsFullOfClowns t1_j670c99 wrote
Yeah, sure. Cops country world wide condemned it last time it happened and they'll condemn it the next time it happens and every time after that but they won't stop doing things like this.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j66skt7 wrote
Were these cops part of gang enforcement?
ZaggahZiggler t1_j685lym wrote
Yes
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j6azuhk wrote
ZaggahZiggler t1_j6bezw4 wrote
Well no gang enforcement unit anymore in the gang area. Congratulations Memphis.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j6d2sk8 wrote
Yes this is fantastic news. It was a gang unit in name, in practice it was a street crime unit.
I'm sure beating people like this is routine work for a unit named SCORPION.
Neither approach to law enforcement prevents crime, actually causes more.
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GunnieGraves t1_j66qxpe wrote
When even the police unions are silent, you know it’s fucked up.
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Danimal_House t1_j66y93u wrote
Idk, can you be a normal person this time?
BoudiccasWrath79 t1_j67jos5 wrote
Oh fuck off.
TreeEleben t1_j67ax0w wrote
The CT state police have a history of protecting and covering up for their own who commit crimes on and off duty. It happens constantly with officers who get in drunken crashes. This is a hollow statement, but the fact that they felt the need to issue it means they're actually a little worried about the repercussions of what happened in Memphis.
The thin blue line isnt protecting them nearly as much when everything these days is caught on video and can't be denied.