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sds0918 t1_j0tawfj wrote

It 100% would have been better if he stayed. The amount of immediate and long term suffering in everything the US touches is immeasurable. The deaths, displacements, destruction of infrastructure, contamination of the echo systems and subsequent poisoning of local populations, following destabilization, and then usually crippling genocidal sanctions.

Of course Iraq would have been better off, and so would have countless other countries that the US has ravaged.

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CloudJGuardian t1_j0tkbho wrote

Iraq would have been better off without saddam in general.

But I’m 100% happy he is gone, considering he killed several of my family members as well as torture my father to the point of needing neurosurgery years after.

Considering the million of people dead or tortured over the years, he should never have been put into power by western nations in the first place. Iraq has been messed around with several times, but they’re 100% in a bette place now then with saddam. Let’s just hope western nations stay out of the middle east and don’t repeat their mistakes.

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Zachmorris4186 t1_j0zsdbx wrote

The US brought saddam to power. Gave him the gas he used on the kurds because it was leftovers from what he used against iranians.

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gerd50501 t1_j0u4zpv wrote

for the Sunnis maybe. Not for the other 80%. The Kurds and Shia are glad he is gone. They celebrated his removal. This response is totally stuck up. Ask the Kurds if they prefer to have Saddam there. There are videos of his goons taking sledge hammers to people's hands and throwing them off buildings. Summary executions (murders).

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PretendsHesPissed t1_j0v74b1 wrote

Yeah no. Saddam was a fucking monster and needed to go.

No dictator that rules to oppress a majority of its people is good for a country. Not to mention that he used his military for evil purposes.

The US terrible things in Iraq but that doesn't mean Saddam was better. Absolutely not. Thinking or even saying such a thing shows a level of ignorance so grand that it's insane to think people actually think this.

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sds0918 t1_j0vgrgj wrote

What a terrible excuse to justify what happened and is still happening in Iraq.

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zgembo1337 t1_j0tqcaw wrote

>The amount of immediate and long term suffering in everything the US touches is immeasurable.

Yep... Most of the world already hates the US (and many americans aren't aware of that), while at the same time, they share propaganda, how their soldiers are "fighting for american freedom" by killing people half a planet away.

Now, someone else is also waging a war, and we have a bunch of propaganda, flags in profiles, sanctions, and general hate, while ignoring that US (and quite a few other countries) are occupying other sovereign countries too, right now.

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Political_Fishbulb t1_j0ujorg wrote

>Most of the world already hates the US (and many americans aren't aware of that)

Starting your response like this shows you don't actually know any Americans.

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npiperno t1_j0uqlx5 wrote

your response shows how you live in a bubble where ppl (other than USians) actually like USians. news flash: we (the world) don't. USians keep interfering in internal political affairs for your own interest, even if it means putting a country thru a military regime because you just couldn't let a country move without your own ideologies (I come from one of those countries, you should look it up how many of those there are).

p.s.: before you say anything, yes, I do know USianS and they're smart enough to know their history and geopolitical facts, enough to know how f*ed up US is, specially when it comes to political matters overseas

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nova9001 t1_j0us869 wrote

Its funny how America and its Western allies invade countries and that's ok but when Russia does it, the whole world needs to stand up to Russian aggression.

Simply amazing double standards.

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zgembo1337 t1_j0uwxef wrote

Yep... And they're far from being the only one... You have Israel and Saudi Arabia, but both are US-friendly, so "it's OK", and lets not forget a bunch of stuff in africa, where noone cares, then you hear that some local leader wants the (eg.) french to go home from their country, then silence, some shooting, a coup, change of government and everything is quiet again.

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nova9001 t1_j0vlvvf wrote

People do care but its just impossible to go against the world order created by the West.

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