Submitted by shanoshamanizum t3_xx48in in Futurology
dog_superiority t1_ira0ok7 wrote
Why? Money is fucking useful for society. Even illiterate people thousands of years had that figured out. Without it, we'd still need living like cave men. It's might me the most beneficial invention of all time.
shanoshamanizum OP t1_ira0t30 wrote
Because money have the inherent property of accumulation and the end game of the free market capitalism is feudalism where there are so few players there is no need for a market anymore. We are at that stage right now.
dog_superiority t1_irb3eed wrote
This is all 100% nonsense. Capitalism is merely freedom. The ability for us to do what we want with our own time and property. There is no "end game" or any of that crap.
sandleaz t1_irddv8r wrote
> the end game of the free market capitalism is feudalism where there are so few players there is no need for a market anymore. We are at that stage right now.
Maybe you should learn what the word feudalism means, and perhaps study some history before showing yourself how silly your comment is. Also, learn what free market capitalism is as well before you equate it to feudalism. It's ok, you can stop being a "serf" and create your moneyless utopia...no one is going to stop you.
Mitch_from_Boston t1_ira69q8 wrote
The reason why we have "fedualism" right now is specifically due to our lack of free market capitalism. We have plenty of market capitalism, we just don't have much freedom within that market. And its inherently due to our Communist neighbors in the Eastern world who control the global markets.
unmondeparfait t1_irscsp6 wrote
"Without slavery we never would have built the pyramids! Why do you want to destroy society? We'll all be living in filth if we don't have slaves, you dummy!"
dog_superiority t1_irse6na wrote
First of all, slaves were not use to build the pyramids.
Secondly, slaves make an economy worse not better. That is why the south was much more poor than the north in the US in the 1800s.
So while slaves are NOT helpful to society, money is DAMN useful to society. We should therefore keep money and ban slavery.
unmondeparfait t1_irsf4xs wrote
>First of all, slaves were not use to build the pyramids.
I know, that was part of the bit.
>Secondly, slaves make an economy worse not better. That is why the south was much more poor than the north in the US in the 1800s.
If your only argument against slavery is that it's financially unviable (which you're completely making up, but we'll take it as true for your benefit), then there's really no reason to eschew anything that's profitable.
Also yeah, slavery is still incredibly profitable. Happens to this day.
dog_superiority t1_irsgb8w wrote
I'm not making that up, BTW. It's been studied a lot. It may be profitable to the person holding the slave, but not to society.
And that is not my only reason. Or even the primary one. The primary reason slavery should be banned is that it infringes on rights. Money does not infringe on rights.
SentientHotdogWater t1_irfkysi wrote
>Without it, we'd still need living like cave men.
The Inca were able to create one of the most advanced empires in pre-Columbian America without the use of currency. Your assertions aren't based on reality.
PositivityBear t1_irfyqby wrote
Technically we don't know how their economy worked, so it's a stretch to say they had no type of market system.
dog_superiority t1_irfotww wrote
Being a so called advanced empire in pre-Columbian America is not a high bar.
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