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Gari_305 OP t1_j1wy0gs wrote

From the Article

>In a written reply to a question in the Lok Sabha on Wednesday, Jitendra Singh, minister of state (independent charge) of science and technology, atomic energy and space , said the crewed Gaganyaan mission—H1 mission—is being targeted to be launched in the fourth quarter of 2024.
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>“In view of the paramount importance of crew safety, two test vehicle missions are planned before the ‘H1’ mission to demonstrate the performance of crew escape system and parachute-based deceleration system for different flight conditions,” Singh’s reply read

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Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_j1wyne7 wrote

India has been saying this is about to happen for decades...

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FuturologyBot t1_j1x26lp wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gari_305:

From the Article

>In a written reply to a question in the Lok Sabha on Wednesday, Jitendra Singh, minister of state (independent charge) of science and technology, atomic energy and space , said the crewed Gaganyaan mission—H1 mission—is being targeted to be launched in the fourth quarter of 2024.
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>“In view of the paramount importance of crew safety, two test vehicle missions are planned before the ‘H1’ mission to demonstrate the performance of crew escape system and parachute-based deceleration system for different flight conditions,” Singh’s reply read

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/zwv8oz/indias_1st_human_space_flight_to_be_launched_in/j1wy0gs/

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Unusual-Thing-7149 t1_j1x7lwx wrote

Meanwhile incredible poverty levels exist. No need to spend money on space

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1xj4kk wrote

Replying to jussulent_tummy (#1,105,446)

US is the richest country on earth. This is like south sudan trying to build a taiwan tier semiconductor factory while they still in the middle of a nasty civil war. Some things take priority and development happens in steps. Countries that rush development don't do too well

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KR1735 t1_j1xv59y wrote

Replying to Unusual-Thing-7149 (#1,105,231)

I have to say I agree with you. Poverty there is pretty bad. Most Indians live on about $15/day.

It would seem more cost-effective for them to (continue to) cooperate in existing space agencies rather than funding an independent one. Use the remaining money to build infrastructure to combat poverty.

And besides that, I think space agencies should try to be as trans-national as possible. That's a matter of philosophy.

But not my country, not my problem.

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LowLifeExperience t1_j1xwpd9 wrote

Tell me when they accomplish clean water and sanitation all over India. Until then, this is no flex.

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ZombieJesusSunday t1_j1xxg2a wrote

Satellites are important infrastructure & Scientific investment has previously lifted almost all tides.

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_j1yehih wrote

Replying to KR1735 (#1,108,588)

>Poverty there is pretty bad. Most Indians live on about $15/day.

It's always these Democrats virtue signaling other countries. No wonder the rest of the world find you lot insufferable

>It would seem more cost-effective for them to (continue to) cooperate in existing space agencies rather than funding an independent one. Use the remaining money to build infrastructure to combat poverty.

>And besides that, I think space agencies should try to be as trans-national as possible. That's a matter of philosophy.

Space agencies couldn't give less of a damn about your opinion. Probably because you're a nobody Redditor

>But not my country, not my problem

And you still felt a need to comment. Next time mind your business and stay in your lane

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send_nood_z t1_j1yfzh4 wrote

Fuck this comment section. Anything about India or any other third world country on reddit turns to how they are rapists, street shitter, creep, despicable, etc. I thought atleast some discussion will be about the technology here.

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falsevacuumDK t1_j1yghxp wrote

Replying to send_nood_z (#1,111,537)

Well on the bright side, finally we can see how full of hatred white westerns or westerners in general are towards Indians.

Cant stomach our progress.

But we will use their hate for us as our fuel for growth 📈

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ai-dev t1_j1yi9gd wrote

Replying to falsevacuumDK (#1,111,606)

Another lame space program is progress? India should focus on wasting and stunting among it's children. America and Europe have near 0% rates of wasting. Admit that this isn't about human progress, it's about Indian national pride. You want national pride? End wasting and waterborne illness.

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ai-dev t1_j1yif7l wrote

Replying to ZombieJesusSunday (#1,108,952)

This "science" is a old news, there's no "prize" for being fourth. Most countries that can afford their own manned space programs don't, instead they focus on robotic arms or other high tech sub systems. Makes more sense from a scientific/engineering standpoint.

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Aero_doubt t1_j1ynjnc wrote

Replying to ai-dev (#1,111,859)

Compare the post on this sub, with the post on r/space, which has people who actually have knowledge of the subject matter. This post here is filled with ignorant comments.

India's progress, and it's success in applying those technologies in real world issues is obviously going to piss off these small and ignorant people.

I'm advising any Indian person reading this to not engage with this troll, and let them waste away their life trying to spread hatred on Reddit.

In basically every country, anyone from the field of aerospace engineering understands that India has basically set the standards for efficiency and the effective application of tech.

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namco8 t1_j1yp7uz wrote

Replying to falsevacuumDK (#1,112,146)

He's from a hypocrite country where third world are rubbish in his terms, and if they take the pride to upheaval themselves from issues then all the slums and weakness are shown to third world people. When these hypocrites invaded middle East and North Africa for oil then they gave debit ridden loans to these so called third world people to satisfy their own personal agenda. It's better to show these clowns 🐍 charmers and poorness which they really wanted to and continue with our hidden agendas.

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1yx4y6 wrote

Replying to falsevacuumDK (#1,111,606)

India is a human rights abuser to almost the same level as China and Russia. Your country is shit and will turn into a pariah once it gets strong enough.

Good luck trying to develop once India turns into a sorching desert due to global warming

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1yxb52 wrote

Replying to Aero_doubt (#1,112,575)

>In basically every country, anyone from the field of aerospace engineering understands that India has basically set the standards for efficiency and the effective application of tech.

This is deusional. Even Brazil has a airline company. India has nothing, they're still buying jets from Europe and Russia. They can't make anything themsleves. They can't even copy shit like the chinese do.

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1yxrxy wrote

Replying to namco8 (#1,112,740)

And by the 80s, most of the racial tensions are gone. Meanwhile, just last month, a young Dalit child got beaten to death for the crime of trying to drink the same water as a Brahmin. This has been despite "efforts" to fix it for 8 decades now

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1yyocz wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,112,217)

>India made a few rovers to I believe

Yeah, the one that crashed onto the moon in a failed mission

>As far as I know, India and Japan are right behind the USA for space related stuff.

India is behind ESA, Russia, South korea, China and Japan. They are nowhere near the head of the pack

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1z0n66 wrote

Replying to AnIntellectualBadass (#1,114,309)

India is one of the big 3 country(Iran, China) that's supporting Russia's genocidal war in Ukraine by buying Russian oil and gas, refusing to sanction and condem Russia and still buying Russian weapons. If Biden had any balls, he will sanction India the same way he did to China and Iran. It's clear that India is an enemy state ti rhe West at this point.

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1z1vp8 wrote

Replying to Sunapr1 (#1,114,600)

Can India build any passenger jets? No? I thought so.

>All you need to do is just copy

Which is why India still mainly uses European and Russia jets... no domestic copy in sight...

Just like the chinks, all you do is copy, cannot innovate. But you can't even copy properly.

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1z2f56 wrote

Replying to Sunapr1 (#1,114,662)

Caste system... just last month young Dalit child got beaten to death for the crime of trying to drink the same water as a Brahmin. Lots and lots of caste system shit on the same level as apartheid in south africa. And you have the hindu ultranationalist groups actively calling out for the total genocide of all muslims every week or so.

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_j1z3t42 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,114,254)

>India has like twice the number of slaves as China

That the US exploits by outsourcing manufacturing here so maybe don't go there

>Your shithole is a human right abuser on the same level as Iran, Russia and China.

While your woke degenerate shithole potrays itself as a human rights champion while having it's media cover up it's flaws. Bitch we ain't blind

>You should be sanctioned alongside them.

We should ban you Americans from coming here for cheap healthcare and stop exporting our medicines to you, more than half of you fellas will WD themselves

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1z5ifx wrote

Replying to Extension_Ad6338 (#1,115,207)

>That the US exploits by outsourcing manufacturing here so maybe don't go there

The US actively tries to avoid using slave labour. Also India also has a tons of sex slaves, so stop coping and deflecting the issues by blaming everything on America.

>Bitch we ain't blind

America has the best human right record on earth. There's a reason why millions of you do anything to get a green card and escape to western countries every year. Meanwhile Indian are actively supporting Russians in their genocidal war in vs Ukraine.

>We should ban you Americans from coming here for cheap healthcare

Doesn't happen. Not in India anyway.

>and stop exporting our medicines to you, more than half of you fellas will WD themselves

Lol. Do you really think America can't make it's own meds? America is already onshoring factories back from China, soon we'll come for your pharmaceutical industry

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Suspicious-Pilot4313 t1_j1z6klq wrote

Replying to namco8 (#1,115,402)

You're trying to compare this small scale isolated incidents to the country wide abuse of tens of millions of Dalits on a daily bias. And you have the hindu ultranationalist groups actively calling out for the total genocide of all muslims every week or so. Which results in massacres and killing of muslims and burning of mosques.

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Sunapr1 t1_j1z6mig wrote

Jesus fucking Christ ... As usual the term india brings up a lot of trolls magically

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avatarname t1_j1z6mu1 wrote

So we have cosmonauts, astronauts and taikonauts...

How will Indian space travellers be called?

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_j1z6tmd wrote

Replying to Jaded_Prompt_15 (#1,112,916)

>Are you confusing Elon Musk with America?

Lmao you want me to take whatever that fried brain geezer says seriously?

>What kind of idiot believes trump?

Those who don't follow that dementia patient of a President you got? From the East's perspective Trump was a better President than the joke you got now

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_j1z78iw wrote

Replying to Suspicious-Pilot4313 (#1,115,549)

>Spacex will have colonies on Mars by mid 2030s, well before India or China can even land on the moon.

Let's just hope it's not as vulnerable as that Cybertruck

>America is also actively making progress on a cure for aging

That only the elite rich will get. No way they're gonna hand them to you common folk

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_j1z9m7g wrote

Replying to Jaded_Prompt_15 (#1,116,132)

>press freedoms rankings

Ah yes yet another one of those studies/reports/indexes made by self-proclaimed Western "experts" who think the World will believe anything written by a White man.

Speaking of press freedom, you from the same country that organized a witch hunt against Julian Assange for exposing how the "greatest" country in the world really is?

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Words_Are_Hrad t1_j1zfvuy wrote

Replying to Sunapr1 (#1,115,212)

80% is Hindu and the Hindu superiority movement in India is only gaining steam. People are worried that a Muslim and Sikh genocide is going to happen... Thriving might not be the best choice of words...

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Sunapr1 t1_j1zmfiq wrote

Replying to Words_Are_Hrad (#1,117,589)

What the fuck who are those people who are worried sick genocide might happen??? Plus in absolute no i do will say the other religion thrives... Hindu nationalism is definitely increasing though due to right wing government

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cspinasdf t1_j1zsa87 wrote

Replying to 1dabaholic (#1,119,167)

Not really, I mean its more of the opposite problem in America. Obesity is a significantly bigger problem in America. Arguably a bigger problem than starvation in most nations.

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Ok_Side2575 t1_j1zutc3 wrote

India spends around $2billion in space agency while $50 billion in fertilizer subsidies.. going in space and moving forward what's wrong in that if you can do it in a fraction of cost

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Ok_Side2575 t1_j1zvg9w wrote

Replying to Suspicious-Pilot4313 (#1,115,689)

Bruh you think there's a daily basis dalit issue in India.. it's much like in India's rural and for that reason reservation still exist it's sad but yup things have changed a lot..

This is coming from a so called lower caste myself

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samz22 t1_j1zvlpn wrote

Replying to send_nood_z (#1,111,537)

There was a video just this morning about a guy slapping a girl to sleep cause she rejected his marriage proposal. Before sending people to space, that shit needs to get fixed.

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2020Dystopian t1_j1zwnm0 wrote

Yawn. Chicken Tikka Masala has been out of this world for some time now.

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send_nood_z t1_j200sdt wrote

Replying to copa8 (#1,120,509)

Not comparing anything, also what you quoted is why I wrote other third world countries and others too.

Write something about Turkey Erdogan enters, post about something in Brazil then Bolsonaro and Favelas come, For China it becomes too racist to read, anything middle-east becomes about terrorists, etc. I don't know if my observation is biased but comments section is somewhat milder but still bad if post is about African countries.

I mean yeah we know our countries have problems, but people who post such rhetoric don't want to help or something but their attitude is of condescendence and smugness, not genuine concern about someone's sufferings or problems

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samz22 t1_j201soi wrote

Replying to jmzlolo (#1,120,851)

Just my thought, I mean there is a massive civil issue in India. That needs to be resolved before trying to fight other countries much-less go into space.

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woolcoat t1_j20398o wrote

Replying to send_nood_z (#1,121,550)

yea, it's like if every piece of news coming out of the US has a comment section about BLM/racism, failing infrastructure, formula shortages/scandals, ballooning debt, Jan 6, insane CEO pay, ridiculous incarceration rate, treatment of immigrants at the border, child labor in Alabama, unaffordable housing, student debt, inflation, lack of affordable healthcare, millions affected by lead poisoning, Edward Snowden, Iraq war/Guantanamo, covid deaths, flint's water, the genocide of native Americans, colonization of Puerto Rico and Hawaii...

...did I get everything?

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send_nood_z t1_j204lms wrote

Replying to woolcoat (#1,121,989)

You summed up every comment section I've seen. I used to think reddit was better than twitter but I see new lows everytime as you can see even in this comments section. I didn't mention anything about problems of other countries or said anything bad, yet people are blatantly violating Rule-1 of this sub

>Rule 1 - Respect
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>Be respectful to others - this includes no hostility, racism, sexism, bigotry, etc.

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Neither-Evidence-765 t1_j204tse wrote

Replying to Suspicious-Pilot4313 (#1,114,657)

India is just doing business. It’s nothing political. They’re not getting involved in everyone’s wars or starting them. Perhaps India wouldn’t have such a strong relationship with Russia if the US didn’t back Pakistan in the past. The US realized that was a mistake is trying to build relations with India, and India seems to have the upper hand now.

India is poor because the British stole wealth without returning it and prevented development and industrialization early on. If they can get cheap oil they will because they put India first. India’s consumption of oil per capita is very low but increasing and they don’t produce much oil at all. Perhaps if the British returned the wealth and took responsibility of their actions India, India wouldn’t be as dirty or polluted out poor or underdeveloped or have so much brain drain. Then, India could afford to buy oil from other nations. India could condemn Russia, but as we know it, Russia was one of the few forces that supported and helped after India’s independence. India and Russia have helped each other many times, where other nations have ignored India or supported China or Pakistan.

After the war, China is expected to make lots of money helping Russia rebuild and that is a threat to the quad and other nations. Therefore the US would rather have India swoop in and profit from helping Russia rebuild after the war. The US also does too much business in communist China but not enough in India so it makes sense to put sanctions there but not on here. The US is supporting the China who supports Russia by this business as India buys oil and fertilizer from Russia.

However, India is aligned with the US in the quad and they do military exercises together. The US understand India’s circumstances and doesn’t interfere as heavily as you may want. The US can’t tell India what to do.

Perhaps India may be the west’s way to strike peace talks with Russia. The cia has already praised Indias role in deescalating nuclear disaster. And perhaps India not joining Ukraine is preventing a world war. Alliances have started those wars. If India joined Ukraine then China and Iran and Pakistan might more heavily support Russia.

Regardless, India’s space missions and domestic military development will make India more independent and less reliant on Russia. It might be towards making India strong enough to break ties with Russia or take on China by itself. India will put India first. The west has put itself first on many occasions and this time India is doing it, and it actually might be a stance that will help end the war or prevent further violence else where.

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ItachiUchihaSSJ t1_j205fek wrote

Replying to Suspicious-Pilot4313 (#1,114,657)

Wth... Supporting?? That's a big word. From what I've seen Indian PM and foreign ministers had infact condemned the war and had also called for an end to the war by reiterating multiple times that diplomacy is the way forward in contemporary world, if deranged crazy mf like Putin ain't listening how's that india's fault? and besides Europe is still buying more oil from Russia than both China and India combined.

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ai-dev t1_j2093yx wrote

Replying to namco8 (#1,112,808)

I want all people to succeed. Sending astronauts to space is old science. There's 0 science and 0 pride from this. You know what would be a more awesome invention than space travel? A new smartphone operating system, Android and IOS are lame. That accomplishment world be amazing.

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LandownAE t1_j2107i3 wrote

Replying to send_nood_z (#1,111,537)

Why would it be about tech when most of their population is living in horrible conditions? Why spend this money on space flight when they can’t afford enough social programs to improve everyday life?

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UncutMeat90 t1_j21789p wrote

Replying to KR1735 (#1,108,588)

You idiots don't even realize the value of money and cost of things. Sure even if an Indian makes $15 a day, $1 would buy me a delicious HEALTHY meal in India. $3 and I would be eating a buffet. But keep assuming you're an expert on India

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Ok_Side2575 t1_j21ypy6 wrote

Replying to Suspicious-Pilot4313 (#1,127,290)

Tell me you are idiot without telling me you are. you can't copy a missile or space ship with just it's image..the reason for being cause it doesn't happen that way...you can ask anyone who has slightest idea of space and it's organisation and events that how different almost each tech is.. India acquired it's initial technology of satellite building from the Soviets not the west..

The niche like the geo spatial mapping satellite to Earth observation satellite to the mammath space vehicle to the cryogenic engine tech to heavy booster rockets all this is not only confidential but not shared by anyone ..

You just can't digest the fact that a country with shit ton of problems is planning to go to space..oh yup what would we achive form it?? ..well not only experience but the advancement in niche tech and not lagging behind in industrial revolution is the soul basis via a country can come out of poverty...

We were told to stop the day we build our nuclear power the day we launched our satellite the day we decided to build supercomputers the day we decided to produce IT and software..

Today a third world country India is a partner not only in Large hydron collider mission but also that in nuclear fusion technology in France

Problem exists but problems can't be explanation for a nation to stop it's build in other domains.. Everything needs priority when you already are centuries late from rest of the World..

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ItachiUchihaSSJ t1_j228gn1 wrote

Replying to Suspicious-Pilot4313 (#1,127,102)

I understand that we should also be sanctioning Russia as this seems like a right thing to do but you also need to understand that we already trade lot less with Russia than you guys do, you guys are still buying more oil/gas from Russia than we are then how about you guys first stop buying from Russia and then we do, plus it's not like us stop buying Russian oil/gas would be of much use China will just most likely fully replace us. And us sanctioning Russia means we buying gas/oil from other sources and that'll put pressure on global supply further increasing the gas/oil prices around the world, it's a mess of a situation we all are in my friend, we want this war to end as soon as possible, inflammation and rising exchange rates, problems with global supply chains and eroding globalism is hurting everyone and not to mention all the poor people that are dying in that crazy mf's war. I wish well for all Ukrainians and hope Russian tyrant regime collapse.

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Sunapr1 t1_j22p0xe wrote

Replying to mutherhrg (#1,127,603)

Well here is the thing the nut jobs are everywhere we can't do much about them. I see you have given the link of hindutva watch but that correlates Nothing. You can search for the twitter channel Right wing watch which is more US centric. There are nutjobs everywhere

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Sunapr1 t1_j22perq wrote

Replying to samz22 (#1,121,745)

There are many issue in many countries. These things can improve in parallel. It makes no sense to shunt one part.. what you are telling is that like unless US solves it's gun problem everything else should be stopped

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