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[deleted] t1_j8oss2h wrote

It's an unsolvable dilemma. Many of them are substance addicted, and cannot afford to have somewhere to live. You can house them, but forcefully cramming people into beds is not ideal and it's expensive. You can wait for them to get arrested and go to prison for stealing or drug possession. You could just ditch all of your human empathy and round them up to work in labor camps like China did with the Uighurs. The best solution is to leave them on the street, were they can shoot up and occasionally be a bother to somebody. The police are just there to clean up afterwards, and are not able to prevent any issues with them.

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ComprehensiveHorse30 t1_j8ov87n wrote

Genocide of a certain religion and homelessness are not …. Comparable. The Uighur population were largely functioning and active members of society.

Homelessness is a global problem and there IS things we can do. Addiction help (free), job counseling, housing resources, better resources for vets (40% of homeless people are vets)…. The list goes on.

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[deleted] t1_j8ox8k9 wrote

I hate Reddit sometimes, I was not comparing those two things. I was just comparing the action. Get an education before arguing online with people when you clearly don't understand what is being said.

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ComprehensiveHorse30 t1_j8oy8vu wrote

You too friend.

It’s inappropriate to bring up a active genocide when the topic is homeless populations.

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[deleted] t1_j8p24wq wrote

You still don't get it, to clarify, I do not condone genocide to the homeless. I was merely listing options that are frequently analyzed in this debate.

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[deleted] t1_j8p2pz8 wrote

You are dumb. It is not unsolvable. Yes you will always have homeless. Not to this degree though. I was homeless and now am not. Though I balance on the edge. I have no drug problems and my mental problems are not job/social breaking. Why am I always close to homeless and prior homeless? Because I do not have a college degree and no one highers for much if any above minimum wage. Minimum wage is not livable in any state currently. I can not go to college because I do not make enough money to save/pay for college. Cannot get loans because who loans to a recently homeless person with bad credit? Cant get credit up because who gives credit cards to bad credit people? Cant get a home because I have bad credit. Cant get good credit because I cant pay off debts. Cant pay off debts because no job will pay me more then 15-16$. Rent is a few hundred under exactly what i bring home every month. Raises are less then inflation. Cant move up because no college degree. Cant get a car to have maybe better possibilities because I cant get a savings going. Cant get medical coverage because poor. Pay fines for not have medical coverage because poor. Miss a bill because sick. Get fined for missing a bill. Cant pay new bill because poor and missed work and no medical coverage.

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See how once you are poor you are cycled to never get out of that pocket, unless some helps you or you get lucky? Why drugs are such an issue also. Once you are this poor and you realize you have no way up, whats the point?

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Dunyazad t1_j8oyenf wrote

If it were an unsolvable problem, Finland wouldn't have solved it.

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[deleted] t1_j8p2j0s wrote

>solved it

They cut it by almost 70% which is impressive, but with 17k homeless in Finland, they are only dealing with a very small amount. The US has nearly 600,000, and that is just the recorded people.

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Greatsavemesome t1_j8p4fsk wrote

But given the population difference between the two countries, Finland actually had a higher proportion of homeless before this (using the numbers you provided, I didn't confirm them), so I'd say they're doing something quite right.

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[deleted] t1_j8p4z7u wrote

Comparing the two countries is not possible because the US and it's scale are not comparable. Even with proportionality making sense, it isn't a priority in the legislature.

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Greatsavemesome t1_j8p6mul wrote

> it isn't a priority in the legislature

There we agree, and I think that's much more relevant than the population (overall and/or homeless). The government here just doesn't care.

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Heap_Good_Firewater t1_j8oyo1v wrote

>It's an unsolvable dilemma.

Japan and Sweden have homelessness rates approaching zero percent. Did they use magic?

It's not an unsolvable problem, but we have to stop pretending we are helping mentally ill addicts by letting them run their own lives.

We have to involuntarily enter them into treatment programs.

Expensive is not the same as impossible, although it seems that way sometimes.

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