Submitted by boomeroni123 t3_11xrv64 in LifeProTips
It's very common in places like New York, LA, or San Francisco to see on the menu a fine print of something like "8% will be added to the bill so our servers can earn a living wage and benefits" whatever.
Then you'll get teh bill and see tax, service charge, sustainability charge, whatever.
Tip on the subtotal
Why would I tip if it has already been added to the bill?
Because it might not be as much as you would normally tip. Tipping on the subtotal makes sure you're not tipping anymore than you normally would. I also deduct the % they add from my tip. If it's 8% I'd tip 12%
Sucks for them then. If it's added to the bill and it's only 8% when I was gunna tip more, then that's what they get.
This silly thing must only happen in usa, because the employee's paycheck is not the customer's responsibility but the employer...
In most places in EU, a decent and fair paycheck is given to the waiters so they don't rely on people, and that portion of their salary is included in the bill BY DEFAULT, EVERYWHERE.
Otherwise you start getting into this stupid tip, no tip, tip included but tip again on the subtotal, 5% tip, 8% tip, 20% tip, "oh jerry you only pay 2$ for tip? broke ass, I pay 4$" "shit food but waiter's gotta eat, tip", "waiter only smiles for you to pay a tip", pay 20$ for food and service and pay extra 4$ for service but it is a tip "because waiters wage is only 4$/h" but then you check and their average salary is like a normal salary, but then this place pays badly to their waiters, "but no! you must tip fairly!, just do the π*2 rounded by this macPlumbus indoor kart divided by the current price of a gallon of petrol real quick, times 2, and then round up", and on and on. Classic USA bs for sure.
"8% will be added to the bill so our servers can earn a living wage and benefits"
That ought to be illegal. A $12 sandwich with a mandatory 8% is a $13 sandwich, anything else is chicanery.
For that matter, all prices should include all unavoidable fees. If I need to pay a title fee to buy the car, put it on the STICKER. If I need to pay local, state, and national sales tax, put it on the SHELF! If I need to pay extra so you can pay your employees, PUT IT IN THE ITEM PRICE!
Other countries do this. Some even have round prices like £5, which means I hand the cashier a £5 note and we're done. No 4.99, 19.99+ tax, fees, and digging through a purse and/or change drawer, DONE!
I always tip 20% which I think is totally fair. Places that pull stuff like these surcharges I would just avoid going to. I also will never tip for a takeout order since there wasn’t any service involved in the transaction I don’t care about their stupid pop up’s at the register.
Completely agree, I will look them in the eye and click 'no tip'
I always tip on the subtotal. No need to tip on sales tax.
it's unbelievable how you americans allow this tipping culture to exist. it is so stupid
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Lol, places around here add a minimum of 15% if they add the tip and the "suggested" tips usually start at 20%. Why not 150% or 1000%?
I just calculate 20% real quick by moving the decimal over one space to the left, times 2, and then round down.
HaAnotherLlama t1_jd4j9cj wrote
Yeah, if I read that, I am not tipping.