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HumpSlackWails t1_j9xzl17 wrote
At the very least I think folks need to understand other people's kids aren't pools for unchecked activism.
Helping a kid who comes to you with a question in privacy and confidence is one thing...
Broadcasting your social activism to classrooms... eh... not the same thing.
Wouldn't want the bigots doing it, hiding behind this same rationale, don't want others doing it either.
And identity choices and gender and sex discussions also =/= pokemon or hobbies. All content is not equal. Sometimes not every population is yours to educate or expose, sorry. And what a person might say is just "providing information so they can access it" others might see as "marketing."
Because it is.
If you'd be mad if Jimbo Transphobe McRacist wrote his handle on the board and kids wandered off down a hole of carefully crafted anti-marginalized people commentary? Well that wouldn't be his place. And its about the place. Not the quality of content.
OddClass134 t1_j9ye5zw wrote
>Broadcasting your social activism to classrooms... eh... not the same thing.
I understand this point, but for LGBT people and especially trans people, the simple act of existing is often social activism in and of itself.
When I was in school we had a gay teacher who could not legally marry his partner. When he became able to, he told us he was getting married. This is no different than a straight teacher saying they are getting married, very PG and acceptable, but the fact he was gay and doing it carried significant political baggage.
It seems unreasonable to ask people who's identities themselves are topics of public debate to avoid bringing politics into the classroom. I don't see anyway they could reasonably do that without intentionally hiding aspects of their lives that non-LGBT teachers would never be expected to hide.
Not to mention education itself is far from "neutral" politically anyway, but that's a different conversation.
mymaineaccount46 t1_j9yioup wrote
There's a difference in offhand mentioning something and sharing your socials with students. The latter is inappropriate regardless of your lifestyle or beliefs.
Students should have no involvement with a teacher's private life.
OddClass134 t1_j9ylq67 wrote
I think the appropriateness of sharing social media is up for discussion, frankly. When I was in high school, my best friend's mother was my government teacher. My algebra teacher rented a room from my other friends parents and came to their Christmas parties. My drama teacher held a summer BBQ for all the graduating seniors.
Saying teachers cannot share any of their private life with students seems needlessly cold. There's nothing wrong with a teacher relating to their students on a human level. Talking about the birth of their new child, talking about where they grew up, bringing their husband/wife to the school recital, etc.
Social media profiles can be very private, but often times they aren't. Often times it's no different than a digital resume, especially on platforms like TikTok and Instagram.
Tbh this push to dehumanize and automate teacher/student interaction is a really sad by-product imo of this whole trans debate. Is there a line? Of course, but schools are still communities, not factory assembly lines.
mymaineaccount46 t1_j9yqbar wrote
I don't think it is a byproduct of the trans debate. The line between private and school life has always been present. Teachers are meant to be authority figured to their students, not their friends. That isn't something that should be changed and it's entirely inappropriate to be giving out your socials to students regardless of who you are, your beliefs, gender etc.
Stormypwns t1_j9zak4h wrote
Schools are communities? That's laughable. There might be communities within schools but a school is not a community. A school is a percentage (or the whole depending on size) of a town's population of children. That's not a community. That's like saying the state of Arizona is a community.
You being personally related to teachers or hanging out with teachers outside of school has no bearing on what is appropriate in a classroom. There is a difference between even briefly talking about your personal life if it's relevant to something related to the class and making students watch (possibly politically themed) TikToks. I certainly don't want conservatives doing it (especially creationists. Imagine a creationist science teacher making students watch Christian TikTok?) and we don't need to be doing it either. Class is for learning the material. If the teacher wants to hang out with the kids and show them TikToks she can do it on her own time outside of the classroom.
OddClass134 t1_j9zcg4o wrote
>There might be communities within schools but a school is not a community.
So pep rallys, sports teams, mascots and school colors, school dances, yearbooks... should we get rid of all of those? Those are community activities and signifiers.
We could just send the children to all sit in little pods by themselves and watch videos abut the things they need to learn. No need to worry about them interacting with other humans or being anything more than-- as you put it-- "a percentage of the population". Imagine the efficiency!
>If the teacher wants to hang out with the kids and show them TikToks she can do it on her own time outside of the classroom.
???
Stormypwns t1_j9zr0aq wrote
What are you questioning here? The point is self explanatory. Sports teams are for their own sake. There are communities in the school based around them. Not everyone in the school partakes. I sure as hell didn't. You go to dances to hang out with your social group - not necessarily anyone else from the school. You don't buy your yearbook just to have a picture of Timmy from a different class in a different year who you never talked to once in your entire career there.
I could better see this argument made for a university perhaps, as you get to choose where you go to college, and based off that fact alone you have something in common with your fellow students in that you all made the decision to choose that university.
However this only tangentially related to the point at hand, and you've dodged the legitimacy of my actual argument; no pushing your personal belief systems on the kids no matter how right you are or believe yourself to be. Tell them that you're trans, that you were born that way, and that you deserve the same respect as everyone else on the faculty. Don't make them watch biased propaganda videos. That's never okay no matter who is doing it. That's not what school is for. School is to learn.
As for the honestly fucking dumb 'pods' point, you still need human teachers to answer questions and grade papers. The kids still need to be around and interact with each other to socialize and learn about the rules and expected behaviors in society.
However your teacher isn't your friend; they're your teacher. I can't go out and have drinks with my direct manager. Why? Because it's a conflict of interest. In the real world there are going to be people you're going to have to interact and show a level of respect towards who will not be your friend, and at school kids should be taught a certain level of professionalism with their teachers.
Personally I was blessed to have an instructor, an amazing person, who I hung out with on several occasions after school. Sometimes he'd take some of us to Dennys and we'd discuss projects we were working on, or he even helped some of his students out with some tough personal situations. At Dennys, or at the independence day parade, or wherever else he was David. In the classroom, however, he was always 'sir' or 'Mr.___', and we treated him professionally and with respect.
Koboldsftw t1_ja05jqf wrote
What if you offhand mention your socials
MosskeepForest t1_j9y731n wrote
For Republicans, a Trans person existing is "marketing".
You trying to claim a right winger making hate videos is the same thing as a Trans person being seen transitioning in public is disgusting.
Right wingers are ALWAYS attacking random minorities and claiming their day to day lives is an "agenda".
When is enough enough? Right wingers need to be held accountable for their actions.
HumpSlackWails t1_j9yach8 wrote
This isn't just existing. Existing is a trans person doing stuff.
A tik tok devoted to your transitions is not "just existing."
A tik tok of a gay person reviewing movies is just existing. A tik tok chronically their coming out journey is something special.
No one except the content creator said, with this content, "I am trans and this is about me being trans specifically."
Not every group is a potential audience for activism because you feel, of course, your message is super critical and HAS to reach them. Everyone will use that rationale - and has been - and its how oppression happens. Just take a step back and understand sometimes people in marginalized groups can cross lines too. She did.
MosskeepForest t1_j9yigtj wrote
>A tik tok devoted to your transitions is not "just existing."
What does "devoted to your transition" mean? Showing your medical care is now "inappropriate"? Or showing your day to day life as you transition? THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF JUST EXISTING.
You are trying to redefine a person living their life and using social media normally to share about their life as "an agenda" and "political activism".
And it's always a standard that applies EXCLUSIVELY for trans people.
Like I said, just this morning I watched a male teacher casually looking on his laptop during class while perving through womens profiles on facebook.... while his screen was projected to the front of the room in front of the entire class. WHERE IS THE FOX NEWS ARTICLE ABOUT THAT?
You fascists don't care about your hypocrisy though. You just ignore it and keep on pushing YOUR AGENDA to vilify ANOTHER minority group. As you have for my entire life....jumping from one to the next.
You people need to be stopped. You constant try to destroy our society and create domestic terrorism. History has shown us where people like you take societies...and it isn't pretty.
The NAZI did the exact same thing with gay people. They worked tirelessly to reframe them as "threats to children"....
Care to guess what I think should happen to Nazis?
HumpSlackWails t1_ja2h1k2 wrote
"What does "devoted to your transition" mean? Showing your medical care is now "inappropriate"? Or showing your day to day life as you transition? THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF JUST EXISTING."
No, that is a tik tok dedicated to your experience transitioning. It is not a tik tok where a trans person engages in a regular, non-topical living.
If I skydive and make a vlog about skydiving its a skydiving vlog. If I skydive and appear in videos where I happen to have my parachute in my car but I'm on my way to a concert...
I'm just a skydiver who happens to be on film.
If you can differentiate between targeted, topical content and not then you're not here in good faith.
MosskeepForest t1_ja2zbpz wrote
And yet if it were some male teacher who had a tiktok showing his medical care for a broken arm over months, you wouldn't be calling that "inappropriate" or devoted to some sort of agenda.
You would just say he was sharing his life.
But EXCLUSIVELY for minorities, you fascists want to try and reframe normal life and normal usage of social media as some sort of conspiracy.
You seem to think it's your DUTY to inject yourself into the lives of others. You have no concept for the idea of freedom and want to use the state to police simple things like medical care? Fucking fascist.
Why don't you get the fuck out of my country and go to one that thinks like you do? Iraq? Saudi Arabia? North Korea? Russia? China? Pick a fascist state that wants to attack minorities, you would fit right in.
HumpSlackWails t1_ja30fhc wrote
\You're absolutely right. Teaching skills is absolutely not the same as recording your transition journey.
I think you finally nailed it.
MosskeepForest t1_ja32274 wrote
I guess you think tiktok is some teaching platform? Lol, cool.
HumpSlackWails t1_ja3593o wrote
This teacher clearly did.
IamSauerKraut t1_j9ylfpr wrote
>Not every group is a potential audience for activism because you feel, of course, your message is super critical and HAS to reach them. Everyone will use that rationale - and has been - and its how oppression happens. Just take a step back and understand sometimes people in marginalized groups can cross lines too. She did.
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Hard to disagree.
Wear_Overall t1_j9zaw8i wrote
Comparing racists to the transgendered says all anyone needs to know about your fucked up opinion.
esodankic t1_j9zx1if wrote
I know in RSU 13 a substitute teacher makes $13.50 an hour.
MosskeepForest t1_j9x2zko wrote
Except she didn't. She told the kids her tiktok handle.
The example of "extreme inappropriate content" (which wasn't shown in class) was in one of her random videos she was wearing a towel (ohhh the humanityyyyy, how will the children ever recover).
It's a farce. Most people only read the headlines. Just another piece of propaganda by the traitors in the republican party.
Propaganda targeting minorities should be a criminal offense. Republicans engaging in this sort of nazi behaviour belong behind bars.
cannonball12345 t1_j9x7e6a wrote
Why is it appropriate for any teacher to share their social media handles with students?
rectumish t1_j9yii43 wrote
why is it not?
MosskeepForest t1_j9x80l9 wrote
The point is the framing by the traitor republicans is extremely obvious. This isn't an issue of a teacher sharing their social media handle. This is just propaganda to push their recent narrative of "trans people are grooming your kids!!!!!".
That's why the article makes it seem like she was sharing porn or something to kids in class. When the story was actually "a teacher told some students what her tiktok handle was". So a slap on the wrist and tell her not to. Woopty dooo.
Though, I honestly don't care if a teacher shares their social media with students. You think teachers should be using fake names in the classroom so kids can't go home and google them too?
This isn't 1999, welcome to the internet age.
But again, that isn't the real issue here. The real issue is traitor republicans trying to push their hate campaign with one after another of these propaganda pieces.
cannonball12345 t1_j9x9udy wrote
I read the article, not sure where you read they suggested it was porn. Or what 1999 or the internet have anything to do with this. As a parent I feel as though any teacher, substitute or not, shouldn’t share their social media accounts. But hey, It’s cool you feel differently. I have two kids and felt I should defend the schools decision to cut ties.
MosskeepForest t1_j9xa9hx wrote
>I read the article, not sure where you read they suggested it was porn
The article title was that the TRANSGENDER teacher (emphasis on transgender, since the article mentions it a billion times and it's in the headline) was sharing inappropriate videos.
TURNS OUT that she wasn't. She just told the kids what her tiktok handle was.... and in a random video of however many her catalogue is, the trolls at fox news found one where she was wearing a towel....
Where are all the other THOUSANDS of articles of various teachers through the country sharing more than school policy allows?? Oh? Articles are just saved for the TRANSGENDER ones? Yea, it's kind of obvious this isn't about a teacher that just shared her social media handle when she shouldn't have.....
>I have two kids
Cool. Today on twitter it was trending that vaporeon is the best pokemon for sex. You know, since it's water based. Apparently it would make a good flesh light (I learnt a lot from twitter today)
So.... good luck protecting your kids from seeing someone wearing a towel I guess.
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IamSauerKraut t1_j9yk80k wrote
>When the story was actually "a teacher told some students what her tiktok handle was".
Given the content of the account, the handle should not have been shared.
In today's environment, a teacher's social media presence needs to be squeaky clean. If it is not, then why is the teacher sharing the handle?
I agree with the person who posits that this is less about gender identity than it is about appropriate behavior.
MosskeepForest t1_j9ynjt5 wrote
>In today's environment, a teacher's social media presence needs to be squeaky clean.
Yea, todays environment of people trying to turn everything into some type of moral panic. It's always some fucked up fundamental christian viewpoint that has us firing teachers because they showed their knees on facebook or something.
That people support this type of fragile "teachers can't be human" mentality is insane.... but explains why our education system is so shit. We have very poorly paid teachers who are told they must always walk on a knives edge of being fired for "being inappropriate".... which leaves very few people willing to put up with all that BS.
And the application of "decency" is always applied to women and minorities. Even just kids knowing a teachers name and finding their facebook page where they posted going to a club is "inappropriate".
How do people keep supporting this or thinking this is healthy or good?
IamSauerKraut t1_j9z4v95 wrote
>Even just kids knowing a teachers name and finding their facebook page where they posted going to a club is "inappropriate".
Way to turn my comment on its head.
The issue presented here is not a kid knowing a name and looking for the facebook page; rather, it is (alleged) that the teacher, knowing the contents of their own page, encouraged the students to go visit the page. That is what is inappropriate sharing.
MosskeepForest t1_j9z6294 wrote
Let's not forget the actual issue is not about the line for what a child can know about their teachers.
The real issue is this is a matter that the school should have taken care of (as they do with tens of thousands of other instances of similar or worse issues regularly) without it becoming some sort of propaganda piece for traitorous republicans.
>The issue presented here is not a kid knowing a name and looking for the facebook page
No, that is EXACTLY THE ISSUE. The teacher shared her handle on a social media site (a handle is your internet name, how people find you).
>knowing the contents of their own page
The content? That they are openly transgender? No, I don't accept the fucking fascists line of thinking that transgender people are "inappropriate for children".
This is what the fucks tried to claim about gay relationships also for the last 40+ years. That seeing a man and man together was "too adult for children". Fuck them and their fascist rhetoric trying to label people existing and engaging in normal behaviour as "inappropriate".
>Way to turn my comment on its head.
It isn't. It is actually where your line of thinking goes (or more accurately, has brought us).
This has actually happened and teachers have been fired for it.
That is where this mentality of "teachers must be pure christians" leads us... to an insane society of misguided "protecting the children" panic.
IamSauerKraut t1_j9zhmii wrote
You can always convince folks of the righteousness of your argument by inserting "traitorous" and "fascists" and other emotionally charged opinion (some of which is unrelated to the issue at hand). It also helps to post patronizing and gratuitous verbiage. Pat yourself on the back.
MosskeepForest t1_j9zj1hp wrote
>You can always convince folks of the righteousness of your argument
A certain portion of the population are just evil and will never face the truth of their actions.
That's why conservatives jump from one minority to another drumming up hate and violence.... because they have no sense of morality and just want to create hell on earth.
There is no way to phrase things to make them examine themselves. They are just purely evil creatures that need to be stopped.
How do you think the world stopped the Nazis? It wasn't with a round table discussion....
> by inserting "traitorous" and "fascists" and other emotionally charged opinion
It isn't an opinion. It is a fact. When a random American suddenly turns on their neighbor and begins pointing a finger and screaming "WE HAVE TO KILL THEM TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!"..... that is a traitor turning on their own society.
That is a festering disease that threatens the very fabric of peaceful society if not stopped. They are fascists, again, BY DEFINITION. They use fear of the other to take control of governments and install authoritarian measures victimizing countless people (as republican fascists are doing now across the country, and have been doing my entire life).
These things aren't opinion. It is just a fact of what these people are. A cancer at the heart of our country.... that will cause untold damage (and HAVE caused untold damage) if not stopped.
Again, there is no discussion to be had with them. They are evil hateful rotten creatures that have no sense of decency. Traitors and threats to America itself.
IamSauerKraut t1_j9zja2p wrote
>How do you think the world stopped the Nazis? I
Not sure this question is related to the issue at hand but I am sure you will post a verbose response that will do nothing to tie the two together.
IamSauerKraut t1_j9zjgao wrote
>When a random American suddenly turns on their neighbor and begins pointing a finger and screaming "WE HAVE TO KILL THEM TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!"..... that is a traitor turning on their own society.
Not seeing that anywhere in the posted article. Nor do I see a similar sentiment in the comments posted in this thread.
MosskeepForest t1_j9zl92d wrote
>Not seeing that anywhere in the posted article. Nor do I see a similar sentiment in the comments posted in this thread.
I guess you've just decided to start to play stupid? Is that the strategy now?
Suddenly you have forgotten about the last 5 years and the trans panic narrative of grooming and all other bullshit? Culminating in a huge spike in states trying to restrict access to medical care for trans youth and other anti-trans legislation being pushed through?
Yea, play dumb all you want. We all know what you are trying to do. You aren't fooling anyone with this bullshit.
IamSauerKraut t1_j9zn9hn wrote
>Suddenly you have forgotten about the last 5 years
What does the last 5 years have to do with a specific situation involving a substitute teacher at King?
Nada.
But you go on about bullshit...
HumpSlackWails t1_j9y05yf wrote
"Propaganda targeting minorities should be a criminal offense."
Unless its propaganda you agree with, of course. This is why the issue is how it isn't a person's place, in this venue, to be marketing their political and social activism accounts to school children at all, regardless of content.... and not who is making content.
I understand you have very strong beliefs about how kids deserve access to this information and its okay to push them towards it.
Its not your place to decide that that is okay in the classroom and other people have disagreed. I wouldn't want my kids being pushed to a trans-hating account on a classroom-wide basis, and I don't want other people pushing their personal lives and stories out onto them either.
And for as much as you invoke other "inappropriate" content teachers might push kids to or whatever... challenge them on the merits. Educationally related content? Not gonna win complaining about that. Not-activist or commentary content, just life? Also not the same.
A video of two trans people going out to see Ant Man and then having a slice of pizza at Otto's isn't the same thing as an entire tik tok channel devoted to exploring the trans experience and someone transitioning. Intent of content and intent behind marketing it both matter for all populations.
Marketing certain types of content to kids is always going to be seen as unacceptable. If you think some straight person would get away with marketing their "come see my straight life and how great being straight is" channel exploring their exploration of heterosexual gender-normative life is?
You're actually quite mistaken and even right wing folks, mothers especially, would ask about people glorifying their lifestyle in that kind of pointed, targeted way, then pushing kids toward it. I have right wing friends. Who do not like their kids watching Tate.
People might need access, exposure and representation. It does not mean that they are free to do whatever they want to get it without ever facing any blowback.
MosskeepForest t1_j9y6m74 wrote
Where are the daily articles from fox News about non-trans teachers breaking minor school policies?
I just saw a video on Twitter of a male teacher that accidentally had his Facebook up on the projector while looking at women's profiles where they were in bikinis.
Where are the fox news articles about that creep?
IamSauerKraut t1_j9ykgr2 wrote
>I just saw a video on Twitter of a male teacher that accidentally had his Facebook up on the projector while looking at women's profiles where they were in bikinis.
How does such a thing occur accidentally? Teacher needs to be smart enough to never have this occurrence be possible. Less of an accident than carelessness, imho, and should be addressed by the building admin.
saintalbanberg t1_j9yifkm wrote
> If you think some straight person would get away with marketing their "come see my straight life and how great being straight is" channel exploring their exploration of heterosexual gender-normative life is?
We watched a ton of movies in school which were based on classic novels. This was a facet of just about every single one.
dougwdouglas t1_j9ygpyk wrote
Surely the actions are inappropriate. I remember many teachers in high school who would attempt to be “cool” and build relationships with students beyond the typical teacher-student relationship (get involved in student gossip, active with students on social media, texting weekend plans, etc). Was it dangerous? Probably not. Strange and inappropriate? Absolutely
In this case, a teacher is actively advertising her social media which directly brings minors to provocative photos? Not a great look!
Now Fox weaponizing this with the context of her transition is a different conversation, but I don’t think that’s going to be surprising to anyone here
IamSauerKraut t1_j9ykwql wrote
>I remember many teachers in high school who would attempt to be “cool” and build relationships with students
Oh yeah.
Only recently has a concerted effort been made to put an end to these "relationships." My chem teacher, married, knocked up a sophomore. My US History teacher was banging a junior. Neither faced consequences beyond some well-placed comments from female colleagues.
IamSauerKraut t1_j9yko9a wrote
>In this case, a teacher is actively advertising her social media which directly brings minors to provocative photos? Not a great look!
Agreed. Should be common sense among teachers.
MosskeepForest t1_j9yip9k wrote
>In this case, a teacher is actively advertising her social media which directly brings minors to provocative photos? Not a great look!
And that is where it should have ended. A principal saying "hay, could you not share your personal accounts during school hours? Thank you".
Instead of some national news story about how "TRANSGENDER people are sharing inappropriate videos to CHILDREN!!!!"
This is pure propaganda.
Lerch737 t1_j9y3bxt wrote
So all Republicans are traitors and all democrats are good guys?
mymaineaccount46 t1_j9yibpg wrote
That's how this site is. You ever look at the politics sub? This place is crazy.
Lerch737 t1_ja2tv9p wrote
Fuuuuuccckkk no. I stay the hell away from there!
IamSauerKraut t1_j9ykjo3 wrote
No.
There are good people and turds on both sides of that political aisle.
Lerch737 t1_ja2k2xq wrote
Good. Politicians are like diapers, and need to changes for the same reason
IamSauerKraut t1_ja3cwwx wrote
There's a visual. True, but quite the visual.
MosskeepForest t1_j9y7h88 wrote
Yes, Republicans are traitors always attacking random minorities just going about their lives.
First it was the "black agenda"... then the "gay agenda"... then the "mexican agenda"...now the "Trans agenda".
They need to be stopped. They are cancerous traitors constantly turning on fellow citizens and trying to create violence and hate for no reason.
When is enough enough? I've been seeing it my entire life. God damned fascists.
baxterstate t1_j9y8iey wrote
So all Republicans are traitors and all democrats are good guys? ———————-
Yes. If you want to make America great again, you’re a white supremacist. If you believe that China represents a bigger threat to the USA than Russia, it’s because you hate Asians. Just go to the political discussion board.
OurWhoresAreClean t1_j9yclci wrote
>If you believe that China represents a bigger threat to the USA than Russia, it’s because you hate Asians.
I needed a laugh, thank you for this
IamSauerKraut t1_j9yjxpj wrote
>She told the kids her tiktok handle.
Difference without a distinction.
TopGovtOfficial t1_j9x2b4f wrote
But that ain't gonna stop Fox news from writing shit about her transition in every paragraph.
DidDunMegasploded t1_j9xtiof wrote
You're right, but you forget that putting qualifiers like "transgender" or "man/woman with autism" or "man/woman with schizophrenia" are clicking phrases/words that draw in viewers. That's why "transgender" is in the title.
Classic rookie media move.
EDIT: Fuck, it's 5 in the morning and I just peeped who posted this. Yeah, no surprise here.
My point still stands, though, because it's more than Fuck Nose that does this.
Majestic-Feedback541 t1_j9x2aqf wrote
But it helps to get the public outraged so it's a win-win to them
fLux3303 t1_j9xym5g wrote
No one should be using fucking TikTok to be honest, especially children
MosskeepForest t1_j9x22ef wrote
Republicans are outright terrorists creating a new domestic terrorism campaign. That is all this is.
Trying to create a panic around trans people is disgusting.
Reminds me of when they did this shit towards gay people. I wouldn't be surprised of them using the government to do the 60's propaganda style videos towards trans people next.
It's the same agenda, to get people to associate trans people as a "threat to the children". Then mentally handicapped extremists latch onto it and start killing trans people (as we have already seen, they still have "trans panic" as a legal defense for murdering trans people in many states....).
HerrAdventure t1_j9y3jnh wrote
Your rhetoric, do you think it can be copy pasted into other aspects we see in modern-day discussions? Toxic certainty is a big issue that is unhealthy to society, and to our minds.
Headline aside, the issue that arose from this is disturbing. Headlines like this are not necessary to tell the story at large of what occurred. It's clickbait, adds fuel to their base, and keeps the views coming.
My advice to anyone that wants to, check out allsides.com to see how news headlines are portrayed on the Left, Right, and Center.
MosskeepForest t1_j9y7m35 wrote
Where are the daily articles from fox News about non-trans teachers breaking minor school policies?
I just saw a video on Twitter of a male teacher that accidentally had his Facebook up on the projector while looking at women's profiles where they were in bikinis.
Where are the fox news articles about that creep?
HerrAdventure t1_j9yaa3e wrote
I believe you missed the point I brought up with a reference to a nonpartisan site that showcases issues with headlines of the media. Fox News does promulgate its stories to its base interests much like CNN does on its headlines. I also noted the term toxic certainty as being an issue that stems from a tribal mindset and to adhere to that, companies will forego news stories to appease their followers. It's fear tactics to keep them coming back for more. The best thing we all can do is relax and not show support for the polarizing objective the MSM has created.
The story is the story and can be said neutrally. To answer your question, those articles are not in their best interest which is wrong and not complete, and I agree with your premise that overlooking one instead of the other is not of value to the concern of what has occurred. Can we agree that Fox has an agenda of targeting transgender issues? I know I can. And I'm agreeing with you. I'm not agreeing with you in labeling an entire base of people as a broad brush stroke, however. That also is wrong to do.
MosskeepForest t1_j9yj7h1 wrote
>I'm not agreeing with you in labeling an entire base of people as a broad brush stroke, however. That also is wrong to do.
Groups of people who use literal Nazi tactics to try and reframe LGBT people as "threats to children" should not be tolerated.
History showed us what happens when a group runs free with that type of propaganda. And conservatives are trying the same thing right now, complete with fascist use of the state to attack trans peoples rights.
These fucking Nazis are painted with the exact brush they deserve. Decent people should be standing up VERY CLEARLY against these god damned fascists and traitors attacking our fellow Americans.
I don't tolerate Nazis in my back yard pushing their fascist propaganda. Fuck them.
freetheroux t1_ja2w7vj wrote
Groups of people who use literal Nazi tactics to try and reframe conservative people as “threats to society” should not be tolerated
MosskeepForest t1_ja2yzxw wrote
>Groups of people who use literal Nazi tactics to try and reframe conservative people as “threats to society” should not be tolerated
Haha, no have no idea what you are talking about. The Nazi never attacked conservatives...THE NAZI WERE CONSERVATIVES.
They did THE EXACT SAME THING are you horrible people are attempting to do, attacking the LGBT community and trying to reframe them as "threats to children". Then they gave them pink stars "for everyones safety"...and then started murdering them.
You fucking fascists are EXACTLY like the Nazi. Your stupid game of trying to reframe calling that out as "what the nazi would do" is laughable.
freetheroux t1_ja2z9h5 wrote
Calm down bro, I would not want you around my children
MosskeepForest t1_ja2zo1h wrote
Yea, I would imagine you wouldn't. It would be very troublesome to have a moral person around while you groom them for whatever sick things you have planned.
Maybe you will have them wear one of those "purity rings" or start going with them to prom to have them sit on your lap? Wasn't that a big thing you perverted nutjobs were doing a bit ago? Haha. Funny how that never shows up on fox news.... never any ACTUAL threats to children. You all just attack minorities while snickering and jerking it to the most perverted stuff online or drooling over children shows on Nickelodeon.
That's the other thing about you fascists, you are complete pervs when it comes to children. Rampant abuse is common.... and you lack ANY sense of morality.
Again, your type of people should be in jail. It's crazy we let creatures like you walk free poisoning our society and playing your sick perverted games.
freetheroux t1_ja304nd wrote
Omg I raised them the exact same way they would’ve been raised 2 decades ago, ABUSE!!! How dare I teach them there’s no need to take hormones or cut off their pp’s to be who they want to be. I am such a horrible person for wanting my kids to be comfortable in their own bodies.
MosskeepForest t1_ja315bh wrote
>Omg I raised them the exact same way they would’ve been raised 2 decades ago, ABUSE!!!
Yes, things like hitting your children is now known as abuse. It's further proof of your lack of morals and your threat to children that you think that is a ridiculous thing....
I really hope you don't have children. And if you do, I hope someone is checking on them to make sure you aren't "raising them like the good ol days".
>How dare I teach them there’s no need to take hormones or cut off their pp’s to be who they want to be. I am such a horrible person for wanting my kids to be comfortable in their own bodies.
It's so sad you religious nutjobs think it's new or daring to deny people medical care and ignore doctors and experts on health issues. It's nothing new, you people often kill your family doing that sort of thing (and when given the chance, will try to kill other people also... which is why it's SOOO important not to let you nutjobs get that chance to spread. Then you start making laws to deny blood transfusions or surgeries or cancer treatments or trans care. THIS IS NOT A NEW PHENOMENON, THAT IS WHY YOU ARE DANGEROUS).
Yes, if they were trans and you did that... you would risk pushing them to suicide. Trans people have a very high statistic in suicide from bigots like you bullying them and trying to deny them medical care. ((Which is evident because once they are removed from toxic environments and given medical care, their rates of suicide drop to normal statistical levels).
But, OF COURSE, you don't care about that. You probably read that last paragraph with a grin imagining a trans person killing themselves from your fascist agenda. THAT IS THE POINT.
It's no secret you want to kill trans people, and if you can deny them medical care and bully and harass them to killing themselves? That's a huge win in your fucked up book!!
Like I said, you are a threat to society. I really really hope you don't have kids. In a normal society the things you have said would have them taken away to a safer environment.
freetheroux t1_ja361is wrote
It’s funny you think spanking kids was acceptable 20 years ago, what are you 15? It’s also funny you think I’m religious. I’m actually an evolutionary biologist so your assumption couldn’t have been more wrong.
So if my kid is trans I either have to deal with them having a higher rate of suicide or them having a normal rate of suicide? Hmm well that settles it for me, I’ll just teach them it’s not possible to be trans so that way they’ll stay within the normal rate for suicide.
I have no problem with trans people, I’ve been watching Blaire White on yt for years way before she became political. I have a problem with people saying it’s ok for kids to be on hormones/hormone blockers and that it’s okay for kids to have top/bottom surgery. If a boy wants to wear a dress I don’t care, if he wants to play with Barbie’s that’s fine. If he wants to go by she that’s acceptable. But if a boy wants to mutilate himself, no that’s not okay
MosskeepForest t1_ja3f2zd wrote
>I’ll just teach them it’s not possible to be trans so that way they’ll stay within the normal rate for suicide.
You sound just like a fundamental christian that has decided they will "just teach their kids not to be gay".
You say you are an evolutionary biologist? LOL, I HIGHLY doubt you have much past a highschool education. You are sitting here trying to deny science and reality and medical consensus and medical treatment like some backwoods hillbilly. "Aint no kids gonna be no transosexuals on mah watch!!!" lol
>I have a problem with people saying it’s ok for kids to be on hormones/hormone blockers and that it’s okay for kids to have top/bottom surgery.
Oh? You imagine yourself some hero trying to stop children from having proper medical treatment? No, that makes you a dangerous psychopath.
You are KNOWINGLY trying to kill children out of some political agenda. A fascist that wants to use the state to step between medical professionals and a childs medical care.... what you are trying to do should be criminal.
You want to stick your head in the sand and deny the entire medical field and study and best practices for care of trans people out of some insane political agenda.
You are some random shlub that read a few fox news articles and now thinks you are an expert on trans care, more so than the entire field of medicine around the world.
And you are too simple to have even a shred of self awareness to realize how ridiculous a stance that is.
freetheroux t1_ja3nor7 wrote
It’s crazy how many assumptions you’re making and wrong assumptions at that. If you stopped being so blinded by hate you’d see that I’m in no way against trans people.
It’s not possible to be a woman if you are born a man, you can look like a woman and talk like a woman and act like a woman but you will never fully be a woman. On the other hand anyone can be gay. According to science males are males through and through, from our bones, to our faces, to our genitals. In order to fully be a woman you’d have to change all of that and it’s just not possible. However, if you just want to be called a woman that’s totally possible, I have no problem respecting what someone wants to be called
No, there is not a consensus that kids must be provided gender affirming “care”. There’s not even a consensus that the earth is round, so it’s crazy you think there is a consensus around something with a lot less data and research. The reality is there are SOME doctors that believe it’s acceptable for a kids to undergo these treatments.
How is saying “kids should be comfortable in their own bodies” tryin to kill them lol? Sounds like your the one putting the idea in their brain that if they don’t transition they can commit suicide. Sounds like you’re the dangerous one, suggesting kids kill themselves if they don’t switch genders.
MosskeepForest t1_ja3pycq wrote
>you’d see that I’m in no way against trans people.
You want to go against modern medical consensus and deny trans people basic medical care.... all because of some deranged political agenda.
Essentially you want to murder children by denying them medical care because you don't think trans people should exist.
And in your twisted mind you have convinced yourself that you "are in no way against trans people". Lol, what a joke.
>No, there is not a consensus that kids must be provided gender affirming “care”. There’s not even a consensus that the earth is round,
There is medical consensus. There is also scientific consensus that the earth is round.
Pretending "there is no consensus" because of a few extremist outliers is ridiculous. That isn't the definition of consensus.
>How is saying “kids should be comfortable in their own bodies” tryin to kill them lol?
Oh? Do you also want to teach young boys they shouldn't go to the gym to get more fit?
Or is changing your body to fit an ideal only bad if trans people do it?
You are really deranged enough to believe you have "figured out the answer to trans treatment".... and that it's just a matter of body positivity? LOL, fucking hell, what a lunatic you are.
Dude, you need to call the medical boards that determine best practices for trans treatment!!! Tell them you have discovered the answer!! All it took you was a few minutes of randomly pulling bullshit out of your ass!! REVOLUTIONARY!! hahaha
>Sounds like your the one putting the idea in their brain that if they don’t transition they can commit suicide.
You are a joke. You belong in the circus with such mental gymnastics haha. You can't even come up with coherent rational arguments..... this is really the best you have? hahahaha, how pathetic.
freetheroux t1_ja3vubf wrote
“Deranged political agenda” ma’am I am a Liberal, this has nothing to do with politics.
“Do you also want to teach young boys they shouldn’t go to the gym to get more fit” the difference is gaining muscle is reversible, if you decide you no longer want to be skinny you can be fat again, no biggie. However if you cut off your pp or your boobies there’s really no going back.
The reason I am so against children permanently changing their bodies is because I’ve had plastic surgery at a young age and I know the effects it can have on a child and later on in life. It can take years to mentally recover from having a surgery that you yourself agreed to. There’s been a growing group within the trans community of people that are saying it’s okay to keep your pp and still identify as a woman, that having bottom surgery comes with complications that might now be worth it. Are those trans people causing harm?
MosskeepForest t1_ja45vhp wrote
> I am a Liberal, this has nothing to do with politics.
Call yourself whatever you want. You are trying to deny kids medical care... lol. If you think that is "liberal", you are delusional.
> the difference is gaining muscle is reversible
So you want to ban school sports? High school athletics account for over 2 MILLION INJURIES a year to children. 500,000 doctor visits. And over 30,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS.
Kids are being KILLED by doing school sports.
And yet you ignore all of that, all of those CHOICES.... and you focus on the most fringe group imaginable? Trans people??
It has NOTHING to do with protecting kids. In fact for these trans kids specifically, you want to deny them healthcare and do more harm.
Only about 3% of trans youth detransition. So you are focusing on the extreme minority in order to deny 97% of trans kids care? That's like saying we shouldn't perform heart surgeries to save people because the morality rate is about 3-4% (and, again, with trans care it isn't death we are speaking of.... typically they are hormone blockers which are largely reversible. Though ideologs like yourself will point to a very minor side effect as some sort of red line that can't be crossed lol).
> There’s been a growing group within the trans community of people that are saying it’s okay to keep your pp and still identify as a woman,
Why are you so focused on childrens dicks? What the fuck is wrong with you??? Most trans people don't have bottom surgery, and kids especially aren't running out to get that done.
In total, for all trans people, bottom surgery is about 5-13%....
Like I said, you are a complete perverted psychopath. You focus on a minor optional part of trans care and try to pretend that represents the entirety of trans care?
> It can take years to mentally recover from having a surgery that you yourself agreed to.
And where are you fighting against non-trans people getting nose jobs or other plastic surgery? Oh? No? Nothing about that?
Again, you are SOLELY focused on trans people and their medical care....while ignoring the exact same thing (hormone treatments, surgeries) in non-trans people (including children).
You are so blinded by hate for trans people you exclusively think you need to stop their medical care.... and yet you have no knowledge of the subject (or even care to learn more of the subject). The only thing you do is keep repeating how you must kill trans children by denying them care.... and you want to use the state to do it.
You are a fucking fascist. A delusional little nothing that spends your free time attacking the healthcare of people. What an absolute joke.
freetheroux t1_ja49xp9 wrote
I’m not calling you names, I don’t understand why you’re calling me names. I honestly don’t see why my point of view is a bad point of view.
- I fight against any kind of cosmetic surgery for children
- I am also against most sports, again you are assuming so many things about me.
- Trans kids are not the most fringe, go to your nearest Umaine campus and you’ll see that trans people make up a large majority of the student body. (I say to visit a college and not a middle school, cause u don’t want to look like a creep)
- I honestly think setting kids on the path to sterilize them, or cut off their genitals in hopes they can feel more themselves, is more harmful than saying they are already themselves and teaching them how to be confident in their own bodies. And before you say anything I’m against body mods of all kinds, piercings and tattoos included. I don’t care if adults do them but I don’t think children are able to fully understand and consent to making permanent changes to their bodies
MosskeepForest t1_ja4ew19 wrote
>I don’t understand why you’re calling me names.
Because you are a monster that wants to deny children healthcare, knowing it will kill them??
Like, you literally want to murder children.... and you can't figure out why people might not like that?? lol, what's wrong with you?
Seriously, what ...is....wrong...with....you? Do you stand outside of childrens hospitals screaming at the doctors to not give the kids chemo also? "IT'S PERMANENT YOU KNOW!!! IT'S PERMANENT!!~!!!!!!!"
Haha, your stance is just completely insane. But because you watch fox news, you think it's a reasonable position to have. To just randomly decide YOU are the expert in a random area of child care / medicine and demand kids stop receiving care. All from some batshit crazy political agenda to attack minorities.
"BUT THE CHILDRENS PENISES!! WE HAVE TO SAVE THEIR PENISES!!" Can you even hear yourself? You are OBSESSED.... even after being told that type of surgery is very rare (even in adults). But, again, you've read a couple headlines on fox news....so YOU ARE THE EXPERT NOW? Fucking ridiculous.
freetheroux t1_ja54svu wrote
I don’t even watch or read Fox News, there you go again with your assumptions
OddClass134 t1_j9ymqoe wrote
What is "disturbing" about what occurred? A teacher shared a social media username, a couple of those videos showed the teacher posing in a sexy-but-not-pornographic way, the school let her go. That's not disturbing.
People get fired all the time for posting things they didn't realize they should have, mixing up accounts and accidentally liking porn, etc. 99% of the time it's an accident.
This article and others imply it was intentional because they have a political agenda-- to make trans women look like sexual predators going after kids. The implication is that for this case it was no accident, this was intentional predation!! But there's no evidence of that and it's really, really unlikely to be true.
HerrAdventure t1_j9yrjy5 wrote
I agree, it's a hit piece that skirts the details of the matter to promote an agenda that appeases the user base. The disturbing nature I see regardless of sexual identity is when teachers have their personal lives involved with students that fall outside the window of appropriate and professional topics. Accident or not, it's not suitable for young minds to be involved with. Overall social media has been a downfall for many individuals and that's a broad topic in itself and for a different discussion.
In this specific case, it's a no-tolerance reaction by the school. The other road that could have been taken would be to keep the teacher employed with the community knowing that this individual may or may not have done this intentionally and is still working at the school. The former is a better approach to keeping an even keel and peace of mind that any sexual nature within the confines of teachers and students, whether it be physical or social, won't happen. And if it does, the route to be taken will mimic this.
In regards to what the article promotes in the agenda of Fox News, it's not wholesome and true to the extent of the full story. It's only bits and pieces and omitting other details that are not aligning with what they want to sell as fear to attract their users for more.
My advice is to delete social media, turn off MSM, and live a life that represents an individual's pursuit of happiness without causing harm in the process.
OddClass134 t1_j9yx2bm wrote
>The disturbing nature I see regardless of sexual identity is when teachers have their personal lives involved with students that fall outside the window of appropriate and professional topics.
I'm sorry but I disagree. Just because something is personal does not make it inappropriate.
There is a line of course, but teachers should connect with their students as community members, not cold and harsh authority figures. That was that kind of schooling we had in the 18th and early 19th century-- cruel headmasters and unsympathetic teachers and nuns slapping everyone's wrists. Not an ideal learning environment.
Should we now require all teachers to avoid disclosing their relationship status? Keep their families a secret? Hide their disabilities, never speak of their personal hobbies, never ever *ever" bring up what they did over the weekend?
Or is it only "inappropriate" when gay teachers do it?
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StatelessConnection t1_j9xvgea wrote
lmao
bolivia_422 t1_j9z9emk wrote
I checked out as soon as I noticed the FoxNews watermark
MegatonDeathclaws t1_j9yjdn0 wrote
Wow this title is totally meant to be deceitful. I expect no less from Fox News. For anyone that doesn’t want to read the article. The teacher gave out their tik tok username (not a great idea) and the kids ended up looking into it. Has nothing to do with being transgendered it’s just another way for these fools to be hateful.
CBurns65 t1_j9xk426 wrote
Very inappropriate behavior for a teacher.
Lieutenant_Joe t1_j9yzw1l wrote
Can we not be sharing articles designed to fearmonger about an entire demographic of people and treating it like it’s a legitimate article please?
freetheroux t1_ja2vx7w wrote
It’s still a legitimate news sources whether it triggers you or not
Lieutenant_Joe t1_ja2whzg wrote
The company has literally argued in court that it’s not.
ClobetasolRelief t1_ja6nbc0 wrote
Lol they declare themselves an entertainment channel bubba
rectumish t1_j9yiesv wrote
great source why not just go to Disney for your news.
Defiant-Cake-569 t1_j9yu8le wrote
she was doxxed, I saw the signs on my street. That account was closed to minors and they only found it after the doxxing. So the person doing the doxxing, they're the ones hurting kids.
unrepentantbarbarian t1_j9yvraj wrote
Thank you for this.
Defiant-Cake-569 t1_j9zxypx wrote
of course!
Ok-Eggplant-1649 t1_j9y4kai wrote
Your first clue this is foxnews
seeclick8 t1_ja0hlgs wrote
As a retired 43 year educator (politically and socially liberal) I must agree with the dismissal. Kids have their own “social world.” It should not interact with the “social world”of their teachers. Randomly coming across a staff members TikTok is one thing, but staff should not give it out and encourage kids to view it regardless of the content. On another note, I am still dumbfounded by reports of educators having “relationships “ with their students. These aren’t relationships. It’s abuse. (And it will always come out.). One would think that after the Mary Kay LeTourneau story people would have figured out the issue.
FireNateMcMillianPlz t1_jabkrkq wrote
fox news, doesn’t count
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Sulla5485 t1_j9z0xr9 wrote
Good. I hope they never work in education again.sharing your socials on the whiteboard....seriously? You are a (substitute) teacher, not their friend.
eliot_cutler t1_j9xkb2p wrote
Easy, some of us just realize that the overwhelmingly vast majority of people are born with a knob or clam and group accordingly. If you want to smooth it out and tell me that you are a girl, have at it. If you then direct your middle school class to your ticktock, that’s a little creepy. Imagine if it was a middle aged ma….human born with penis. You wouldn’t want him teaching your kids, because you’d feel like he wanted to have sex with them. Also, not to be a terrorist, but if a bunch of people decided to cut their arms off I wouldn’t bleat on about how normal it is then tell my kids they were brave when they cut their arm off hahaha
HumpSlackWails t1_j9xypj0 wrote
My child has a male teacher and I'm not spending all my time worried he's trying to bone his students.
But you DO bring up a good point that, at least for the right wingers willing to craft reductive policy to "protect the kids," needs to be addressed:
Men are the overwhelming perpetrators of all violent and sexual crime regardless of the gender identity of the victim.
What are we going to do to protect our girls, boys, women and - yes - even other men - from the horrific violent tendencies men display and their predilection towards sexual violence?
eliot_cutler t1_j9yjje1 wrote
I guess we could ask all the men to dress in women’s clothing and call themselves girls then the problem would be solved.
MrLeeman123 t1_j9xp6pi wrote
I’m sorry you spend so much time thinking about others peoples bodies. Must be exhausting to obsess over everyone’s genitals like that.
eliot_cutler t1_j9yjr9e wrote
If you tell me you’re going to cut off your dick or stick one on I reserve the right to say ‘whoa, that’s a little different’. Must be exhausting to try to dictate how everyone else expresses their thoughts.
MrLeeman123 t1_j9z2ogs wrote
Lol honestly good comeback. Still I think that’s the big difference between people like you and me. If someone told me that I wouldn’t even give it a second thought. What they do with themselves holds zero influence over my own life. I only spend time thinking about things that impact me directly.
eliot_cutler t1_j9z4a0k wrote
That’s very noble of you. Honestly, there’s no word in English that would describe your nobility, but I think the Spanish say ‘impressivo’.
MrLeeman123 t1_j9z7ec5 wrote
Awww man my guy you did so good on the first one and then resorted to sarcasm for the second comeback. Sorry if we’re exhausting your mental capacity to retort after only a couple exchanges!
And you misconstrue. I am far from noble. I’m just an asshole who only cares about myself and if someone does something that doesn’t affect me I couldn’t give fewer shits. Still I hope you can find peace my friend. Life’s hard when you live so bitterly 🖤
eliot_cutler t1_j9z96tc wrote
Always nice to give you a platform to show off. I really hope you will accept me and be friendly towards me in the future.
MosskeepForest t1_j9y83e1 wrote
I just saw a video on Twitter of a male teacher scrolling through women's profiles on Facebook looking at their bikini and club pics while his screen was being cast onto the projector in front of the class.
Funny how the COUNTLESS examples of that sort of thing gets ignored by you extremists and you instead focus on a random Trans teacher that shared her social media name.
You God damned fascists need to be stopped. My entire life I've watched you jump from one minority to another in an endless hate filled campaign.
You are a threat to peaceful society. You are a traitor to your country and fellow citizens.
eliot_cutler t1_j9yjdfd wrote
‘My entire life’. All 14 years of it? Haha. The male teacher should be reprimanded too. You’re just dramatic because it plays politically with the other people who don’t have significant life experiences outside their parents paying for them to get a humanities degree at a college that most people couldn’t afford.
MosskeepForest t1_j9ymmxu wrote
>The male teacher should be reprimanded too
And it would be handled in the school and life would go on. Not become national news by conservatives trying to push a hate-filled political agenda akin to the Nazis pushing the same narrative of "lgbt people are threats to children!!".
eliot_cutler t1_j9yoxld wrote
It’s Fox News. Welcome to the world. It’s the same reason you spout off about traitors and fascists and talk about how you’ve seen these groups oppressed ‘your whole life’, the cognizant portion of which probably began after the towers fell, which is completely offensive to the gays and minorities of past generations who went through significantly worse than pronoun ‘misuse’ and random articles on right wing websites discussing them in less than fawning terms.
I don’t begrudge trans people anything, most are quite nice, like anyone else, but any sort of extreme body modification is different. Oddly enough, by pretending to be a different gender you are acknowledging that their are defined gender norms that you fall outside of, therefore need to change your body, then argue that there should be no defined gender norms, though you’re adopting the mannerisms and affects of a presumed other gender. Humans can be confused, no system is perfect, but to ask others to totally adopt your opinion and offer the charge of treason to anything less is offensive. You’re worse than all of them and just as bad as any of those traders in political clout you see on any extreme news station. Why do you type leave cities? You should move to Portland. Or better, California.
MosskeepForest t1_j9ypudx wrote
>who went through significantly worse than pronoun ‘misuse’ and random articles on right wing websites discussing them in less than fawning terms.
Are you really trying to claim "trans people don't have it so bad"? What's wrong with you?
Right wingers are STILL shooting up clubs and murdering trans people regularly. The "trans panic" defense is still alive and used in the country (that is the defense where a person murders a trans person, but claims it's not their fault because they were surprised to learn they were trans... so.... it's ok to murder them in that moment).
Claiming it's just about some "misuse of pronouns" as you ignore the gross injustices trans people face is really fucked up. You are just a horrible person aren't you?
eliot_cutler t1_j9yt6v2 wrote
Yeah, there’s plenty of mass shooting that have happened for plenty of reasons. You talking like that, ironically, probably causes more of them to happen. You just don’t understand how to effectively forward your cause. Hyperbolic prattle drives people away.
The way trans people have it is that they have chosen an odd and modern way to deal with questions of identity. I would wager than a trans person would prefer to be alive now rather than 1950, but you don’t really have a lot of life experience to draw on that would help you in making these judgement calls. Being gay is a minority sexual preference that only requires jamming you cock into some dudes butt or rubbing your vag against another. Trans people aim to change their bodies. People will look at that differently. Good luck with your revolution, Robespierre. I could really care less if you think I’m a good or bad person, I’m just discussing my thoughts. You should really move to California it sounds like you’d like it there.
MosskeepForest t1_j9z2wiz wrote
>You talking like that, ironically, probably causes more of them to happen
Typically the extremist shootings are BY FAR by right wingers going to gay clubs or black churches or jewish buildings. That's why your type of people are so dangerous to society.... because you see minorities existing as some sort of threat.
And then push endless propaganda to try and create more and more hostile environments (complete with countless murders) until you can ramp up government action (like they are doing across the country with various anti-trans bills right now).
It's the definition of fascism. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NAZI DID WITH GAY PEOPLE. The "gay people are a threat to your children" IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NAZI DID.
.... you understand we fought a war against Nazis right? And then after the war, we killed the ones who lead the hate campaign and murder campaigns right?
Traitors in this country who keep creating hate towards minorities have no sympathy from me. I think they should be treated as traitors to the country for what they do.
eliot_cutler t1_j9z5r2l wrote
You remind me of that woman who was yelling into the sky after trump was elected. You seem more interested in demonstrating how right you are than any sort of discussion. So I’ll just say - if I told you I was feeling weird today and decided to cut off my penis I imagine most people would be concerned. You can figure out the rest, haha. It’s so weird you people leave cities and expect everyone to agree with you the same way.
MosskeepForest t1_j9z90jh wrote
>You seem more interested in demonstrating how right you are than any sort of discussion.
What discussion? There is no discussion here. Just fascists trying to create hate towards trans people with propaganda pieces. A climate that they have cultivated for the last 5 or so years heavily....
You think I should be sitting down and having a "discussion" with fucking Nazis who want to just murder minorities?
You don't seem to quite grasp how a "discussion" with a Nazi works. I'm a traditional person, I believe we should handle Nazis like Nazis.
Again, we fought a war against this type of shit. Their ideology needs to be stamped out from the face of this earth and never allowed to fester and destroy a society again.
That's why these fucking fascists are traitors. They are randomly trying to create more hate towards another minority group. Hate towards their fellow Americans just living their lives. It should be illegal, it should be punished.
DISCUSSION? No, there is no discussion about that. There is just condemnation for what they are trying to do.
eliot_cutler t1_j9zaq7c wrote
“#fcknzs” haha
Lieutenant_Joe t1_j9yzm3k wrote
Your username seems fitting
eliot_cutler t1_j9z04zy wrote
Congratulations, youre the 1000th person to make that comment.
Lieutenant_Joe t1_j9z29zg wrote
Maybe stop being a fucking weirdo on Reddit then, if it bothers you.
eliot_cutler t1_j9z4gj3 wrote
Maybe we can attend an antifa meeting together and nobly espouse our agreement in hopes the womenfolk will sex us.
ainskohler t1_j9x1zme wrote
Teacher dismissed for sharing inappropriate TikTok videos with Maine middle school students. Transgender had nothing to do with this.