Submitted by ftyftghryht t3_z078pf in Music
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GumpsDrillSargeant t1_ix44ujh wrote
Right? Why can’t some politicians just steal an artist’s work and use it for their own purposes? Kari Lake deserves to take whatever she wants, consequence free.
Excellent point!
[deleted] t1_ix477to wrote
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liquid_at t1_ix47au0 wrote
Where do you work? I come by to get some free stuff if that's normal there.
Ongargis t1_ix47za3 wrote
Stop crying about not winning an election and saying it was stolen.
JonasNinetyNine t1_ix48gg0 wrote
Love how petty (pun intended) it is to specifically mentioned, that the campaign failed. More power to Tom Petty and his legal team.
chaseinger t1_ix499i0 wrote
nope. i won't back down.
allmimsyburogrove t1_ix4a5uy wrote
Kari Lake is free-fallin'
khamuncents t1_ix4at7j wrote
The thing is... Tom Petty is dead.
If you were to use a Michael Jackson song at a wedding, and you were sued by his family members for using that song, I bet you'd be fuckin furious.
But as long as it happens to someone you don't know or particularly like, it's right?
Daredizzle t1_ix4c4if wrote
You can't get sued over the songs use at a wedding but you CAN get sued if you use it in a commercial function like an ad or other published media.
None of it matters over who is alive or dead, these are the laws of using media in a commercial setting.
Daredizzle t1_ix4c75x wrote
Literal laws they're breaking around commercial fair use but surrrrrreeeee.
Chewy85 t1_ix4cdhj wrote
The fact you can't tell the difference between playing a song at a wedding vs using someone's song in a promotional campaign is very troubling. Seek help
soda-jerk t1_ix4cyp5 wrote
Musicians typically leave control of their material to someone they trust, usually family. So when that musician dies, the trusted party takes over legal ownership of everything the musician owned. At the very least, they're able to approve/deny public usage requests, and take legal action when needed.
An artist's work doesn't become public domain when they die, unless they specifically ask for that to happen.
Also, you don't get sued for playing music at a wedding, unless your wedding is in a public area, and open to the public.
thegreatestajax t1_ix4el2u wrote
Are we going to do this every day? Who gets the karma tomorrow?
chefr89 t1_ix4f830 wrote
this is literally on the front of the sub already in a post with 27,000 upvotes
landof10000cakes t1_ix4fl1z wrote
We see these issues basically during every campaign season. My favorite response was the Dropkick Murphys telling Scott Walker not to use their music because “we literally hate you.”
So my point being campaigns will probably continue to use music unauthorized until they are held more responsible. Obviously they don’t care because they keep using unauthorized music.
undreamt_odds t1_ix4hqbu wrote
Can it be me? I’m in desperate need of internet karma.
vandebay t1_ix4iluc wrote
Stop commenting for your own sanity
smashin_blumpkin t1_ix4jsaa wrote
It's not stealing. It's playing a song
The_Original_Gronkie t1_ix4kww3 wrote
Conservatives are constantly showing their ignorance, but the Conservative Propaganda Machine gives them an innacurate 5 minute talk about FISA warrants or top secret document declassification laws, and suddenly they know more than a room full of Harvard educated lawyers.
The more they "learn," the dumber they get.
RadiationDM t1_ix4lchm wrote
What PR company do you work for? “Slams” lol?stfu, you were obviously paid to write this, just like you were paid to write the paramore post (or you just copied and pasted the content)
kjblank80 t1_ix4lf0k wrote
They can't stop the campaign from using the music it they play it in locations with ASCAP licenses. The same reason a bar can play music without direct permission of the artist.
jcb1982 t1_ix4lxhy wrote
I dunno. If I was an artist I really wouldn’t want my music associated with fascist-lite political candidates and movements.
dtydings t1_ix4mrwv wrote
So much slamming. Everyone always getting slammed. Slam slam slam
DecafMaverick t1_ix4nirs wrote
I’ve adopted a new policy. From here on out, any post with “slams” or any version thereof is an auto-downvote and I won’t open it. Enough is enough.
Cthulhu_illithid t1_ix4ojr8 wrote
Playing a song in a private setting, and using a song in an advertisement are 2 very different things legally, this is literally copyright infringement.
striderwhite t1_ix4omid wrote
Old news, already posted...boring!
thegreatestajax t1_ix4oocd wrote
It sounds like you don’t know what makes music use authorizes or not.
xlinkedx t1_ix4oznw wrote
Literally only clicked into this post to see someone else hate on the word "slams"
smashin_blumpkin t1_ix4plue wrote
It's not stealing. Playing a song isn't taking that song from anyone else
cornbeefbaby t1_ix4pmcb wrote
It’s just bad journalism. It’s a lazy word used to incite knee-jerk reactions in smooth-brained idiots
WREPGB t1_ix4q1m3 wrote
KillerQuinn t1_ix4qzs3 wrote
Steal: To take another person's property without permission or legal right.
So yes it is stealing
devictionne t1_ix4s48s wrote
I hope the mods slam the delete button for this trash post
thirdAccountIForgot t1_ix4ti23 wrote
It’s almost certainly copied article, and fairly obvious from the writing style and contents. “Lakes campaign did not immediately return a request from The Hill for comment.”
OP shouldn’t be copying others’ content (there’s some rich irony there), but your response also reads a bit childish.
Cthulhu_illithid t1_ix4tifr wrote
Did I use the word stealing? I said copyright infringement look it up there are laws about this shit.
spucci t1_ix4uyc7 wrote
OUTRAGED! Takes to Twitter!
spucci t1_ix4v7p2 wrote
Redditor SLAMS other Redditor for being childish. OUTRAGED he takes to Twitter!
smashin_blumpkin t1_ix4vbmj wrote
The first person I replied to did. That's the point I was making. I didn't say anything about copyright infringement, so why bring it up if not to try and counter what I said?
smashin_blumpkin t1_ix4veyb wrote
They didn't take the song. Playing a song doesn't prevent anyone else from playing that song.
Rocket_Lag t1_ix4vrmz wrote
This is obviously assuming that the venue in which the song was played didn't have a license to play the song.
If they did, then the Petty estate has no case.
spucci t1_ix4vtnq wrote
Curious if they used it in a campaign ad or a public setting like at a speech event of some sort. If the latter, I think they can only ask them not to use it.
imakenosensetopeople t1_ix4wxmn wrote
For what it’s worth, I don’t mind the repost, I’m just sad that politicians keep using unlicensed music, and strangely predictably enough it always seems to be from that side of the aisle.
Edit - the trolls have kindly/rudely pointed out, I should use the term “allegedly unlicensed”
thegreatestajax t1_ix4x2p6 wrote
Firstly, it’s not unlicensed. Secondly, find more important things to care about.
imakenosensetopeople t1_ix4xlsc wrote
Sure, I see “unlicensed” was the wrong word. What’s the correct term for “contacted the artist/estate/intellectual property owner and got permission to play the song?”
thegreatestajax t1_ix4ya7i wrote
The correct term is “they don’t need to if the venue has an ASCAP license”.
BKlounge93 t1_ix4zfxv wrote
Thank god he slammed her, now I can sleep at night
imakenosensetopeople t1_ix50d2v wrote
Except the concern was, the campaign was using it - not just a single instance in a single venue. Can the campaign purchase an ASCAP license, and did they? Or is the assertion here that any venue which played the song had their own ASCAP and the complaint filed by Petty’s estate is not going to hold up?
thegreatestajax t1_ix50fbk wrote
See #2 above.
GumpsDrillSargeant t1_ix51cn4 wrote
You’re the kind of person who, if I own a parking garage and you find a way to park there without paying for it, feels like it’s a victimless crime that you deserve. “I’m not stealing, I’m just not paying for this!”
sloopslarp t1_ix51kuj wrote
Honestly, people complaining about "slams" is just as bad.
The horse was beaten to death years ago.
davidsonrva t1_ix51no3 wrote
wooosh right over your head
davidsonrva t1_ix51spu wrote
Definitely Maga-chud vibes
imakenosensetopeople t1_ix52s6s wrote
At which point, wouldn’t it be easy for them to verify without having to go through the legal process?
Casperrrrrr t1_ix53h7v wrote
I want to drown in Kari Lake
khamuncents t1_ix55gq0 wrote
No I get it. It's just fuckin stupid.
moneycomet t1_ix55q5g wrote
Funny coming from a guy who flew the Confederate Flag during his concerts.
TheJudgementIsDeath t1_ix56wu6 wrote
What's wrong with this post?
TheJudgementIsDeath t1_ix56yhf wrote
It was a different time.
KS2Problema t1_ix58l9j wrote
It's a lot more complicated than that, and the ASCAP licensing specifically excludes campaign events and conventions...
https://www.lfarberlaw.com/post/can-artists-prevent-politicians-from-using-their-music
devictionne t1_ix5939f wrote
Political bullshit, already been posted about, and pointless
doubleapowpow t1_ix59lfg wrote
You destroyed the term slam!
King_Voltron t1_ix59wuk wrote
Petty ass 🖕🏽
DFrostedWangsAccount t1_ix5a9hx wrote
Can we get a chrome addon that does this automatically, cause it's a great idea
BitTrax t1_ix5espw wrote
Drown face down though, right?
Tenpat t1_ix5g26y wrote
Right? This is almost always how it works out. Venue has a license so the politicians can play whatever they want because they are leasing the venue and by extension its license.
Every damn election usually because a Republican is using a song and every damn election every idiot on the thread acts like this will cost them big time.
chooseinevitability t1_ix5gtob wrote
Duh-duh-duh...Duh-duh-duh... Let the boys be boys!
Caracalla81 t1_ix5hime wrote
IKR, why can't headlines use the wordier "criticized in strong terms"? Are they trying to brief or something?
imapteranodon t1_ix5howd wrote
IDDQD-IDKFA t1_ix5i7pa wrote
And he acknowledged it as being stupid later.
>When we toured two years later, I noticed people in the audience wearing Confederate flag bandanas and things like that. One night, someone threw one onstage. I stopped everything and gave a speech about it. I said, “Look, this was to illustrate a character. This is not who we are. Having gone through this, I would prefer it if no one would ever bring a Confederate flag to our shows again because this isn’t who we are.”
>It got a mixed reaction. There were some boos and some cheers. But honestly, it’s a little amazing to me because I never saw one again after that speech in that one town. Fortunately, that went away, but it left me feeling stupid. That’s the word I can use. I felt stupid. If I had just been a little more observant about things going on around me, it wouldn’t have happened.
DubiousDude28 t1_ix5ikaw wrote
Thank you for breaking it down simply, there's republicans present
smashin_blumpkin t1_ix5jcmx wrote
No, that's different because in your scenario, I'd be taking a spot from a paying customer. Playing a song doesn't stop anyone else from playing that same song
Rebelgecko t1_ix5k0h1 wrote
Someone's estate is allowed to override an ascap license? How does that work? Does the estate have to approve every licensee, or do they have to object to each one they don't like manually?
BecomePnueman t1_ix5m1ok wrote
That's pretty petty of him.
TheUglyCasanova t1_ix5ndkv wrote
I bet your mom slams
zoglog t1_ix5pz0b wrote
ViaticalTree t1_ix5qp0u wrote
Tom Petty is dead, bro.
outerproduct t1_ix5s5e3 wrote
I'm a big fan of the people's elbow, personally.
Sir-Barks-a-Lot t1_ix5uutu wrote
Chuck E Cheese also used to fly the Confederate flag in its restaurants. Wtf?
Raspberries-Are-Evil t1_ix61u71 wrote
Sued, not slammed.
Kind_Bullfrog_4073 t1_ix62wir wrote
I guess they won't back down
Informal_Emu_8980 t1_ix63zf0 wrote
Ugh. Slam dunk this article right up your ass basket for using "slam"
unrulystowawaydotcom t1_ix6a6zo wrote
Vice article - Twitter outrage = one or two crazy people.
Big-Meat t1_ix6bey3 wrote
OP slams the term ‘slam’ in Reddit post, will slam ever slam again?
Griever08 t1_ix6bt1f wrote
Slams=asks her to stop
LarryCraigSmeg t1_ixag03l wrote
We playing pogs here with all this slamming?
Jocko677 t1_ix3wljy wrote
Stop crying over the song use.