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Buffmin t1_j8ei2ai wrote

Reply to comment by mynameisalso in Shelter that requires weekly Christian church attendance receives large grant from carbon county. by mynameisalso

This is why I have issues with religious groups giving aid. I hope they actually help people but demanding they go to a service of a specific religion is bullshit and abusive

I mean I guess people who aren't Christians but another religion are just SoL

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imamunster123 t1_j8ej8br wrote

I can't help but wonder how people would feel about an organization like this enforcing weekly attendance to a Jewish synagogue or a Muslim mosque. Surely nobody would have anything to say about that, right?

Also this is basically admitting that you have the means and facilities to help people but are refusing to do so unless they subject themselves to 1 hour of propaganda a week.

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Buffmin t1_j8ejwq3 wrote

They'd be screaming how this is a sign of the end times and how much Christianity is persecuted

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Pink_Slyvie t1_j8felz3 wrote

>I can't help but wonder how people would feel about an organization like this enforcing weekly attendance to a Jewish synagogue or a Muslim mosque. Surely nobody would have anything to say about that, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langar_(Sikhism)

This sorta comes to mind, not the same, but still.

Really, this is why we have gov't. Not for military bases in every other nation, but to help people.

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dogmomdrinkstea t1_j8eiulb wrote

Yeah, I find this gross and manipulative.

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Buffmin t1_j8ejkos wrote

It definitely is. The person requiring help is powerless here. If one is desperate enough they will do whatever to get needed aid.

Same shit missionaries do "stop following your religion and worship ours or we won't bring you food anymore"

if anyone here is thinking "this doesn't sound so bad its only an hour or so a week and you can pick the church!" Let me ask you this. What if it were a Muslim group demanding this?

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dogmomdrinkstea t1_j8ennfr wrote

Or even "idc if you don't believe in a god at all, we're forcing you to partake in religion in hopes you'll cling to it bc we know you're hungry/unhoused". What a fucking disgrace. Honestly culty. You wanna help people, genuinely? Help them without pushing your fairy tales onto them.

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jamisonian123 t1_j8fnr5q wrote

Isn’t it kind of extortion?

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Buffmin t1_j8fp15r wrote

Yup. It's not that much different than a ceo asking the new employee for sex with their power dynamic

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archguy20 t1_j8hbmed wrote

This take is really shockingly ignorant

“Demanding they go to a service of a specific religion is bullshit and abusive” - you can disagree with the approach but words matter, equating a relig. service requirement to abuse is absurd. The majority of people would not agree with that characterization.

“People who aren’t christians are SOL” - No, they will still be offered services discrimination free but are still subject to this private organizations mass requirement if they want to participate. If they are Muslim or another religion they can find Muslim orgs or mosques to render them aid, I imagine many do. If you give aid you are allowed to attach conditions to it.

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Zenith2017 t1_j8if6co wrote

Explain yourself

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archguy20 t1_j8ik6gp wrote

Edited my orig comment to add what I thought the previous commenter was wrong about

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Zenith2017 t1_j8in6s3 wrote

How very Christian of them - worship or suffer

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