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Personal_Spend_2535 t1_jbfqpcg wrote

Lose again loser.

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Grady__Bug t1_jbfs3fb wrote

But he didn’t lose, it was stolen! /s

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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_jbgqydg wrote

That is funny but it seems one should not even joke about such matters because there are tens of millions of clueless lemmings who will be shaking their heads up and down saying, “Yeah - it was stolen!”

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drxdrg08 t1_jbh38g5 wrote

You don't understand much about human psychology. When you see a lot of things being rigged, then you assume everything is.

  • Was Bernie knocked out of the running by the DNC?
  • Was Trump-Russian collusion completely made up?
  • Did COVID come from a Chinese virology lab?

Many years of proven lies tends to make people not believe anything. Especially when it is the liar speaking.

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BurghPuppies t1_jbhf1b0 wrote

Let me answer your questions for you:

  • Bernie & Hillary played with the same rules in the 2016 primaries. The point of contention is the role of superdelegates, most of whom were party officials and who presumably would go for Hillary. DYK that Hillary actually won more regular delegates than Bernie, though? So even without superdelegates, he would have lost. Oh, and call me crazy… but don’t the Dems have a right to back the candidate they choose instead of someone who… let’s all say it together… was proudly not even a Democrat??

  • Trump-Russian collusion was never proven, which is a long way from saying it was completely made up. Trump could have helped himself by, oh IDK, not publicly asking Russia for help during his press conferences & campaign rally. It WAS proven that Russia did attempt to sway the election toward Trump through social media and creating sham “media outlets”.

  • It’s still unknown where Covid came from, but the right’s narrative that Dems said it couldn’t have is untrue. This is also a claim pinned to Fauci, who in fact left the door open many times as to its origin. Where it came from has nothing to do with how poorly Trump handled the virus, ranging everywhere from saying it would disappear to praising Chinese president Xi for his handling of it, to suggesting doctors inject both sunlight and disinfectant.

Sorry to hone in so much on Trump, but when you mention lies, he just comes to mind.

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ItsjustJim621 t1_jbh8q8u wrote

Except Covid did not come from a Chinese lab…the department of energy (how are they making this decision anyway?) even made their claim with low confidence…

The trump Russian collusion wasn’t made made up either. We have a republican-led senate Intel committee report that confirmed that Russia meddled in 2016….

But go on peddling right wing talking points

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drxdrg08 t1_jbhcak2 wrote

> The trump Russian collusion wasn’t made made up either. We have a republican-led senate Intel committee report that confirmed that Russia meddled in 2016….

So did Russia meddle? Or Trump colluded with them?

Big difference there.

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BurghPuppies t1_jbhf8y6 wrote

Collusion was not proven. But Trump & Putin got pretty cozy, including Trump siding with Putin and against US intelligence on their info AND withholding defensive arms from Ukraine… we see how THAT turned out.

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drxdrg08 t1_jbhglm0 wrote

> Collusion was not proven.

Right. Even though unlimited amounts of money and political power were thrown at it. It was a very big fraud that went on for a very long time. And then everyone wonders why some people are distrustful of the election process.

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BurghPuppies t1_jbhi2lw wrote

So, do you mean like the EIGHT Benghazi hearings? Or maybe the Whitewater hearings the GOP held to try to smear Bill & Hillary?

And I’m not sure you can call it a fraud when an investigation happens - under the Republican DOJ and a Republican special counsel - and there is proof of the actions, just not a smoking gun to tie Trump to it. But hey… if that’s your takeaway, then enjoy the tiny little w.

BTW, what every happened to that Durham investigation Trump & Fox News were crowing about??? I guess that passed over us like Q’s “storm”. Still waiting for all those “sealed indictments” to be opened an hundreds of Dems to be arrested. Nice.

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drxdrg08 t1_jbhkc8m wrote

> And I’m not sure you can call it a fraud

I'm sorry, what?

> Steele, a former head of the Russia Desk for British intelligence (MI6), was writing the report for the private investigative firm Fusion GPS, who were paid by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

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BurghPuppies t1_jbhljrx wrote

Now see, you’re getting your scandals mixed up. Easy to have happen, since Trump was pretty much a train wreck.

Steele was indeed writing the report for Fusion GPS, which had been hired by… wait for it… the Republican Party to do opposition research on Trump. (They didn’t want him elected either lol). Anywho, Hillary did indeed end up buying the research, and its contents were eventually turned over to the FBI.

That’s only a small part of the Trump Russia collusion investigation. You conveniently leave out his dealings with Russia over Trump Moscow, his financial debt to Russia, the secret meetings his teams held at Trump Tower with Russian agents, Inna Yashchyshyn, Trump asking Russia publicly to find Hillary’s emails, and much more.

You also forget to mention that THIRTY FOUR people ended up being indicted thanks to the Mueller investigation. And that Mueller said that he could not rule out wrongdoing on Trump’s part, but that he did not have enough to prosecute a winning case.

So, again, if you consider that a win… go for it.

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drxdrg08 t1_jbhniwx wrote

You see, your rant is precisely why a lot of people don't want to believe anything nowadays.

Even when the lies and frauds are exposed, the perpetrators double down.

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BurghPuppies t1_jbhnrlh wrote

Please feel free to correct me with facts. Not MAGA fantasy.

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BurghPuppies t1_jbhikwv wrote

What I’m really waiting for is the investigation into who was paid to push Ivana down the stairs to her death. That’s a common Russian method of enemy elimination. Now who do we know that’s pals with Putin….?

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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_jbi7ioh wrote

Recall also that:

  1. Bernie is not a Democrat and did not quickly, and never whole-heartedly, back Hillary after he lost. (Thanks for trump, Bern.)
  2. Trump’s campaign manager, paul manafort, was a paid putin asset whose resume includes helping install another putin asset in Ukraine before Zelensky was elected.
  3. The possibility of covid coming from that wuhan virus research facility was never fully discounted by Fauci, even to this day.
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Old_Moment7914 t1_jbhreeb wrote

The only things stolen was his spine and his moral compass, he’s a fucking hot mess

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drxdrg08 t1_jbh2qnc wrote

> But he didn’t lose, it was stolen! /s

Just like Bernie's nomination in the Democratic primaries.

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