gmm1978 t1_jcjsdey wrote
Reply to comment by Pink_Slyvie in Penn State president says cuts will be deeper than anticipated as leaders finalize layoff plans by Aggravating_Foot_528
As much as you may not like it, the football team brings in way more money than it costs. Alumni network is strong in large part because of football and other sports, thats not the problem. Penn State is a land grant University, so that means non-profit. When costs go up and revenues do not, something has to be done. Yes, they probably have top heavy people who make a lot more than the average worker, so they can be slashed a bit. Another thing to keep in mind is college enrollment is declining because we simply don't have as many young people between 18-24. The infrastructure of the school was built and people hired to handle a full University. Also keeping in mind, they have almost 15 branch campuses to fund. Most of workers laid will probably get back in one way or another.
GTholla t1_jck2akt wrote
I feel like it's a little disingenuous to say young people aren't going to college because there's less of us. As a person in that age range, no matter how much I may want to go to college, it's just not feasible to do so when you can't find a job that pays more than 14$ an hour and most of that goes to rent and food :(
gmm1978 t1_jck33n1 wrote
What i am saying is simply statistical. Because we have less people in the 18-24 age range, means less are going to college. They're still going, except there is not as many in the population.
If you want to go to school you can. Maybe you can't go away to school, maybe you have to start a community college part time. Its simply not accurate you can't make it happen, if you really want it. Stop listening to all the people saying how difficult it is. Life is difficult. The good news your young, this is the time to go after it. I put myself through school with no help from anyone. Don't say you can't, because you can.
GTholla t1_jck4nd7 wrote
I appreciate that you think that, but when you have 40$ left over at the end of every week, and the closest community college costs 10k in tuition, it's just really not doable. I understand you did it, but that does not mean I have the same means or circumstances as you.
gmm1978 t1_jck5oh2 wrote
I have been there before. When you have to pay with change to put gas in your car. I would not say this to a young person lightly. It may not be want we want to do, but there is financial aid. Yes, it's ugly and it can put you into debt. But if you're responsible and invest in yourself, it can work. Most schools have jobs on campus you can make a few extra bucks between classes. Its not for everyone, but joim the National Guard. Tuition will be basically free at State schools including most community colleges. Don't be discouraged until you look at everything thats out there. Then you have to be willing to put that extra time and work into it. Do that, commit to that and you will move yourself forward. Maybe not as fast, but you can make slow and steady progress.
drxdrg08 t1_jckm60q wrote
> What i am saying is simply statistical.
You are on Reddit.
If 2+2=4 could somehow be interpreted as anti-agenda, you would be down voted.
Reddit is where dumb people come to confirm their biases.
enemy_of_your_enema t1_jckdxjv wrote
>As much as you may not like it, the football team brings in way more money than it costs.
This is a little bit misleading. Yes, PSU football probably does bring in more money than it costs, but often that money is used to subsidize the rest of the athletics department, rather than lowering tuition costs. And while PSU may be included in the tiny minority of schools whose football programs are profitable, the vast majority of schools lose money on football.
And of course, PSU couldn't have a football program if there weren't lots of other teams to play against, so it doesn't make sense to limit the analysis to just a single school. On the whole, college football in the US loses more money than it brings it. On the whole, the system is taxpayer and student-subsidized entertainment in what should be an educational system.
VenomB t1_jckgaze wrote
>On the whole, the system is taxpayer and student-subsidized entertainment in what should be an educational system.
I was just bitching to my buddy about this yesterday. What the FUCK is the point of college? What do these sports have to do with it?
Its all because instead of college football being a fun time and something to do, it became corporatized and tied in with professional football. College hasn't been about higher learning for a long time now.
enemy_of_your_enema t1_jckguwo wrote
To be clear, I think this all only really applies to bigger schools that have big sports programs. There are plenty of colleges and universities out there that are primarily about academics and whose athletics programs are about giving students opportunities for exercise, recreation, and growth rather than being focused on selling tickets and merch.
drxdrg08 t1_jckmnu9 wrote
> College hasn't been about higher learning for a long time now.
You are projecting.
Like everything else, college is what you yourself decide it to be.
You can play sports, you can drink 24/7, or you can study hard.
VenomB t1_jclo9aq wrote
I left PSU after a single summer semester because it was such shit.
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