These election related rejections recently are just window dressing before they uphold the independent state legislature idea in Moore v Harper this year, which will rewrite everything going forward.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/moore-v-harper-explained

Just a heads up, this is posted by a karma farming account. 62k post karma and 192 comment karma.

And? It’s PA related news from a reputable news site.

Perhaps they like to post, not comment...

Karma farming is bad. Some people build karma farming accounts to later sell after a substantial amount of karma has been accrued. These accounts are sold to advertisement/marketing companies, because these accounts allow them to post in popular subreddits that usually have a karma cap. Once sold, these accounts are blatantly used for advertisement, sometimes not even marked as such.

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This is a seperate issue. Chuds just kept throwing shit at the wall hoping they can gerrymanders the state harder and lost in the state Supreme court and got thrown out of the US Supreme court

Your missing my point. This supreme court is actively trying to appear a-political by granting wine reviews while rejecting others, but they save up for the bombshell fringe cases

We really need to make sure that fetterman and Shapiro get elected this November

You post this every time. We don't care. If it's so important to you, scour the news websites and post pertinent articles yourself.

Thank you, very cool

I hope so too or we’re f**ked.

> This supreme court is actively trying to appear a-political by granting wine reviews while rejecting others, but they save up for the bombshell fringe cases

Literally how the supreme court has run since marybury vs madison. In case you didnt know, the supreme court is part of the judicial branch of the government and thus political by definition. Im not as stupid as the people you are trying to trick with you post.

Also i never said anything otherwise about moore vs harper. I know what it means and i know what is going to happen because of it. go bark up another tree chud. I dont care that you are trying to equate the 2 totally separate issues with each other.

Not to mention YOU missed MY point. This was taken to state court because the state is losing a seat and republicans were crying because now the map is only like 3% gerrymandered to their favor instead of way more that they want. They lost in the state courts and thought they could pull a fast one because the courts were stacked with trump activist judges. Even then it got shot down.

The point you are making is totally unrelated outside of the fact that it has to do with election mapping. Moore v Harper says there is some made up idea that the state legislative branch can do whatever they want in an election and are trying to get the prior mentioned activist judges to give them carte blanche to change the results if they dont like them.

I can understand why you hide behind a pa politics special/separate account.

You should correct the error in your last paragraph. "State executive branch"

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Just a heads up, this is an account that solely posts accusations that OP is a bot or astroturfing on any politically charged post.

Agree about Fetterman, but it’s also easy to forget his is a federal race. We need to focus on local state officials for this election as well.

Pretty sure that posting is not the same as hiding, but you do you.

But first, you should realize that you clearly don't understand the case. It is very clearly about the legislature's ability to draw maps without any checks against them (barring courts from overruling legislature, AKA eliminating checks and balances).

Please look at my history and tell me if this is all I post

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Not exactly seeing the forest for the trees with that viewpoint

Both, it isn't like when you vote for one you can't vote for the other

No, seriously, you are providing nothing for the sub. This post is both relevant and informative. Even if they are farming karma, which you can't prove until they actually do sell, they are providing a valuable service. Don't like it? Find the stuff first and post it yourself. Your complaints are basically complaining that the free local paper has ads in it or that the quirky tech startup everyone is fawning over plans to sell out to Google or whoever else offers enough first.

I’m just as useful as people arguing with strangers on the internet

I would say that if this really is a bot, you're actually less useful. At least when two people are arguing they're keeping themselves occupied. You can't even manage that much.

And yet here you are…

It's an easy strategy. Vote blue, all the way through, no matter who. Fuck Republicans

Yeah, I'm keeping you occupied

Indeed. Please give this post some love: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pennsylvania/comments/xujxav/write_in_candidates_for_state_senate_36th_district/

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There are parts of Shapiro's platform that i dont really agree with like how he wants harder sentences for nonviolent drug offenders.

But since the republicans ran someone straight out of the insane asylum, im going to vote for Shapiro.

“The potential consequences could stretch still further. The theory would throw elections into chaos, nullifying hundreds of election rules put in place through ballot initiatives, state constitutions, and administrative regulations — including foundational state policies like the processes for voter registration and mail voting and basic guarantees like the secret ballot. State lawmakers would be able to adopt vote suppression legislation without any checks or balances from state courts or even gubernatorial veto. In other words, the theory would upend key aspects of our elections.”

That sounds bad. I bet once it’s law, it’ll be even worse than I can imagine.

Just delete Reddit then, because it’s all advertisements and influencers at this point.

Moore v. Harper is gonna be upheld on narrow ground and say that state courts can’t ex parte make their own electoral maps..

The only logical conclusion across the entire ticket

That would be the optimistic outcome, imho. Based on Dobbs, where they went beyond answering the question at hand and just gutted Roe, this court is quite willing to find the means to justify the ends. My first post about how they're shrugging off these election related requests, out of hand, sure gives me the feeling like they're trying to play both sides. Like they're trying to bank positive, broad public opinion with these moderate decisions, because they're saving up for a big blast.

You still haven't done anything useful

Yeah, if we was to suffer another 4 more years. Fatterman and Shapiro would be the worst thing to happen to PA. We do not want either of them elected.

You’re not wrong, shit’s corporate as fuck anymore

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There are parts of Mastriano’s platform I don’t agree with like personally bussing traitors to an insurrection. He’s a traitor and should get the rope.

The dems putting up the AG was a disappointing move, but at least he’s not 90 years old, 1 point for the dems.

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If you have to resort to fat shaming, you’ve already lost.

Gtfo loser

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That’s what I like to hear - judges in favor of democracy.

I highly fucking doubt it.

Suck it, conspiracy Republicans!

Your only critique is changing his name to say “Fatterman” instead of “Fetterman.”

That’s a middle-school level attempt at an insult. Get a policy platform or leave the room so the adults can have a real conversation.

I think you’re missing the point where SCOTUS will make it legal to end voting

Biden or whoever wins a presidential race and the PA legislature doesn’t like it? They’ll just LEGALLY be able to say a Republican wins the “election”.

That is when America ends and a guerrilla styled civil war begins. And the military industrial complex, much like a failed nation state we’d use to snicker at on the evening news will be the decider of who wins. Unless they of course take that power for themselves

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DA? You mean AG?

Edited ya my bad

To be fair, maybe this guy can’t spell or be civil. It could be that he’s just not op bright and very angry. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

I have a decent amount of karma. How much can I sell my account for?

Decent amount ngl

how do I sell it? I'm not really attached to it

There are sites out there that specialize in it

Actually it depends on which party you are for at this particular time the gerrymandering done in Pennsylvania right now favors the Democrats so I'm good with that

Hold your horses. They denied this likely because the GOP bypassed state courts to go straight to SCOTUS and also threatened to make a mockery of the state elections by asking for “at large” elections as a Constitutional solution that was really a publicity stunt. It’s likely they’ll uphold independent state legislature theory in the NC case and render this PA case moot without the procedural deficiencies.

Yep. SCOTUS denied this likely because the GOP bypassed state courts to go straight to SCOTUS and also threatened to make a mockery of the state elections by asking for “at large” elections as a Constitutional solution that was really a publicity stunt. It’s likely they’ll uphold independent state legislature theory in the NC case and render this PA case moot without the procedural deficiencies.

As someone who will be voting entirely democrat this election I still completely disagree with blatant tribalism.

Ditto.

Even so, PA has more Democrats than Republicans by total but yet Republicans are like 66 percent (or more) of the state legislature and electorals. How tf does that make sense? End the electoral college because land does not vote, small state votes should not be worth more than mine.

When one tribe fights dirty with the goal of completely canceling the game, you need to stick 100% with the tribe trying to do things fairly.

Thank you. Fuck those idiots for their lack of understanding.

Cool, I just looked at one and it said it doesn't pay more than 100 bucks for an account. I'll check around.

Except we’re not talking about two tribes. The only party that currently has politicians I respect (Dems), also has corrupt politicians that I wish would just end their careers or kick the bucket. The OP I responded to literally just said “fuck those idiots for their lack of understanding”. Such a great strategy, I’m sure the average Republican voter just needs to be told “fuck you” a few more times and they’ll eventually come around. There are no tribes, that’s a facade.

Yeah that’ll convince them you’re right! Keep up the good work 👍

Because Democrats are more compact in cities while Republicans are more spread out?

To be fair the state legislature is way too big and bloated and should be cut down by at least half.

Where someone lives should not give them more or less power than another fellow citizen.

Right. Not all blue candidates ought to be voted into office, same as not all red candidates will be poor public servants.

It's absurd that a crook who lives on Long Island represents a district that stretches from the NY border almost clear down to MD, nearly bisecting the Commonwealth.

You miss the point. We don't have to convince these fuckwits of anything. They ARE the minority. Good people just need to do the right thing. Fuck the racist, fascist fuckers

D down the ticket

Then why are you still here?

I think you just don’t see how your language comes across. I agree with “fuck racists, fuck fascists.” I disagree with “fuck all republicans.” But you see those terms as interchangeable which is sad. I know people that vote republican simply for the fact that it’s how they were raised and they want nothing to do with politics at all. They’re not racist or fascist, and I’ve never called them such, but still they attempt to use that as a way to dismiss any actual argument I put in front of them because people like you automatically categorize them as racist and fascist. Are they ignorant? Yes, but that can be fixed with education and exposure. You have the same tribalism mentality as the racist and fascist. And that’s a problem. Support Dems when they deserve it, not just because they’re Dems

70 percent of republicans support trump.

And here you are grouping the other 30% in with them thinking you’ll change their minds by saying “fuck you you’re all racist.” I’m on your side but you’re literally turning off people who might possibly come to realize why the GOP has become dangerous. If your only goal is to fire up the people who agree with you and get them to vote or whatever, you’re -maybe- doing a great job. But if your goal is to change the minds of other people who don’t yet see the world as you do, I would suggest finding a better way to voice that opinion. On the surface it seems like you couldn’t give a fuck about changing the minds of the 30% of the republican voters who don’t support trump. It also seems like you don’t care about the corruption within the DNC, because “that’s my team don’t you ever question them and by the way look over there at the GOP 🤷‍♂️”

>Biden or whoever wins a presidential race and the PA legislature doesn’t like it? They’ll just LEGALLY be able to say a Republican wins the “election”.

Yup. The gqp is a minority party they cannot win fairly.

They're going this route as a desperate attempt to remain viable and in power.

You're a fucking idiot if that's what you're talking away from this. 🖕

You literally told people to blindly vote democrat and you actually think you’re helping 🤦‍♂️ and now you’re pissed at me? Lmao

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