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ThunderySleep t1_isye6qm wrote

If the problem is lack of policing, how is having no police the solution?

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RevHenryMagoo t1_isyefl9 wrote

I said the ones who don’t want to do their jobs should quit. Are you saying that all police are refusing to do their jobs?

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ThunderySleep t1_isyfyjd wrote

The premise of the discussion is police aren't doing their jobs. I stated police aren't incentivized to do it, and are actively incentivized not to.

Telling them all to quit from there = no police, according to the premise of this conversation, which isn't a logical solution to the notion there's not enough policing.

Of course you don't want people employed in any position who aren't doing their job. I'm just taking this train of thought to it's logical conclusion.

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RevHenryMagoo t1_isygl2f wrote

If they won’t do their jobs, then what’s the difference?

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madmanz123 t1_isyuelo wrote

>I stated police aren't incentivized to do it, and are actively incentivized not to

It's called a paycheck. They get those.

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BlkSheepKnt t1_isytzlj wrote

No the problem is that theft is the only other option of getting access to resources. Go to a high income area and not only are there no police to be seen but no petty theft on large scale, no riots, and no plastic cases around baby formula.

Making sure everyone's material needs are met means even if they had a sign on the door that said "We will not prosecute shoplifters" wouldn't invite near as much theft if everyone could afford groceries and wasn't in want for anything.

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ThunderySleep t1_isyvah4 wrote

A lot of the crime in philadelphia is for shits-and-giggles, particularly among the crowds of teenagers in center city, which were the ones creating most of the havoc at the Wawa locations.

No doubt people occasionally steal out of need, but the notion that crime as a whole is done out of having no other option just isn't true. Plenty of crime is committed out of selfishness, or for thrill, or sometimes out of pure malice.

Most of the havoc at the center city Wawa locations has been teenagers doing it for kicks. The one at Broad and Walnut would have the semi-regular stabbing, for which I don't know the motives, but it didn't seem to be someone hungry needs food.

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