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drxdrg08 t1_iszbuj9 wrote

Reply to comment by Genkiotoko in As Wawa shutters Center City stores, Philly DA Krasner plays defense by User_Name13

> For example, many cops are performing administrative duties and jobs that could be done by regular civilians.

And they are doing it while getting good union pay and union labor protections.

I thought strong and large unions were a good thing?

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mittenedkittens t1_iszdf1j wrote

What kind of gotcha is that supposed to be?

I think the assertion is simple - why are we paying these cops to be administrators and not cops? That's misuse of a limited resource, and a sign of mismanagement.

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alexp8771 t1_iszj2sq wrote

I think he understands unions better than you do. There is probably some medical reason or someshit why they cannot patrol, and because of strong union protections they are given something else to do but get to keep all of their pay and benefits. That is what unions give you. Every union I have ever been involved with on the private side was like this.

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Genkiotoko t1_isznenf wrote

There are a lot of assumptions in your statement. Read the report and you'll see medical issues are not why cops doing menial tasks and non-policing jobs. There are also plenty of other public sector unions that administrative workers belong to.

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drxdrg08 t1_iszh7d4 wrote

> What kind of gotcha is that supposed to be?

Logic 101?

> I think the assertion is simple - why are we paying these cops to be administrators and not cops? That's misuse of a limited resource, and a sign of mismanagement.

Because the physical person behind that job, again, gets good union pay and union labor protections.

How is this not obvious given that the narrative here is that unions are good, and higher pay is good? Are you giving up that narrative only because the money comes out of taxpayer pockets and not private company accounts?

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Genkiotoko t1_iszibuj wrote

>Because the physical person behind that job, again, gets good union pay and union labor protections.

There are plenty of non-police public sector unions that civilian administrative personnel can join. No reason for them to ne police officers in a police union. The average officer makes around $70,000 before overtime and other pay. There are plenty of people who would respectfully fill the position to earn $40k -$50k.

Why do you specifically want cops in these non-policing positions? Seems like a waste of taxpayer dollars and a concentration of bureaucratic power.

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