browneyedgirlpie t1_itczjdj wrote
Reply to comment by kormer in Warehouses, a manufacturing plant, a Chick-fil-A and Sheetz among more than 30 projects planned for central Pa. by elanlift
Yeah but I like wooded areas with wildlife more than truck noises. The article is about more growth on Carlisle Pike in Cumberland County. I live in northern York County. So equally on the outskirts of the Burg, just in a different direction.
My suburban neighborhood is next to 2 amazon warehouses, FedEx depot, and a chewy warehouse, among several other smaller ones.
Lost semi trucks rip up our yard when try and turn around in my cul de sac. They just installed 'no truck turn' signs at the entrances to tge development, that I don't think lost drivers will see. The guy who knew what he was doing at fedex must've retired or died bc the new guy drops trailers so loudly overnight. We have deer that live in a pathetic 10 foot strip of trees between a road and the fence to these warehouses.
When we bought this home, we knew of the 1 amazon and FedEx. There was a thin row of townhomes and trees to block the light from those and back then the fedex noise was significantly less than it is now.
A key selling feature for our home was that our township doesn't allow anymore warehouses or strip malls to be built. What we didn't know at the time was that the main road outside of our development is the township line.
The township next to us cleared 2 million square feet of wooded area for the warehouses across the street. The whole deal was done behind closed doors and it was very controversial. Citizens tried to fight it but were told it was a done deal. There are people on that twp board who have been accused of multiple acts of corruption, it's an ongoing fight with the citizens. In this case, it's big warehouse company (goodman logistics) seeing the opportunity that comes from local corruption in low income areas. Amazon and chewy just happen to be the tenants.
IamSauerKraut t1_itd09h1 wrote
Why are the "people on the twp board who have been accused of multiple acts of corruption" not bounced from office or referred to the AG's office?
browneyedgirlpie t1_itd0nxx wrote
As I mentioned, it's an ongoing battle that people are still currently fighting.
IamSauerKraut t1_itd2g0d wrote
I remember that article about the office kerfuffle. Personality conflicts and defamation more so that corruption. Wintermyer does seem like a bit of a dingus.
CltAltAcctDel t1_itd8gtu wrote
>Yeah but I like wooded areas
>My suburban neighborhood
What do you think your suburban neighborhood was before it became a neighborhood?
browneyedgirlpie t1_itdcksq wrote
It was actually a field before the development, it wasn't wooded. Large trees don't do well in this immediate area because it's solid limestone about 8 inches down. But wooded areas are all around it, at least until they cleared them for warehouses.
kormer t1_itd3zrf wrote
> Yeah but I like wooded areas with wildlife more than truck noises.
So do I, and I found that in Central PA, I'm sure you can too. I wouldn't even say you need to look hard enough, it's literally all around you.
browneyedgirlpie t1_itd47vx wrote
You mean until it's sold off for warehouses.
kormer t1_itdd1ph wrote
If it's that important to you, you are welcome to buy it yourself and have it be open space forever.
And before you said anything, I've actually done that. Myself and a few neighbors partnered with The Nature Conservancy to purchase about 20 acres of woodland surrounding our properties. We needed to put up a portion of our own funds, the development rights were transferred to another property (see TDRs ), and The Nature Conservancy also provided a grant as well as agreed to be the permanent custodian of the land.
browneyedgirlpie t1_itdi2e4 wrote
It's too late, it's already sold and developed. But that's good information for other people concerned with undeveloped areas near them. People didn't even know this was a possibility though.
Part of the issue with this is that the board changed the status of the land from 'by right' to 'conditional use' without appropriately notifying or involving the public.
Residents noticed people surveying the area and spoke up, only to discover it was already a done deal.
Daywalkingvampire t1_itdyeir wrote
It sounds like someone higher up was greasing palms to have people look the other way.
browneyedgirlpie t1_itdyoaw wrote
That's what people suspect.
Daywalkingvampire t1_itdzg95 wrote
Amazon tried to build a warehouse in Churchill here in the Pittsburgh area. the citizens banded together and Amazon was forced to back down.
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