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therealDrA OP t1_je5jk5k wrote

Reply to comment by ToadScoper in Breeze Airways opens base of operations in Rhode Island by therealDrA

Well the particular fiasco you are referring to was Norwegian Airlines. Their business model was based on an all 737 max fleet. Then the 737max ban happened and they could not run the route profitably using the fuel thirsty 737-800 series. It wasn't a Rhode Island thing. Anyhow, why not root for Breeze because, if it succeeds, many non-stop routes not currently served will be.

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ToadScoper t1_je5r4en wrote

Breeze would definitely be a win for RI if it works out

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PawtucketPatriot t1_je5vvp2 wrote

Also, Breeze is setting up a base of operations. Those others (Norwegian, and soon to be Frontier) operated flights, but did not set up a base/hub.

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the_silent_one1984 t1_je7ldkk wrote

Norwegian was at least in the process of opening a base before the 737Max problems plagued them

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Urbanitesunite t1_je6fxc4 wrote

I’m for sure rooting for breeze. I’m a huge aviation geek and pvd desperately needs more flights to anywhere lol. More flights= cheaper flights=less need to go to Boston. But unfortunately, it’s gonna be hard for pvd to attract international flights when it’s squished between Boston and nyc.

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monkiesandtool t1_je6peyl wrote

With the length of runway 5-23 being at 8700' it's comparable to the 4/22's at Logan (4L/22R = 7864' and 4R/22L = 10006').

What TF Green has,

  1. Easy access to the Highway,
  2. Cheap Parking
  3. Being where the Patriots fly out from
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stosyfir t1_je6hmei wrote

Pro for more Int'l flights leaving Teddy Greene: Not dealing with Boston or NYC.

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Urbanitesunite t1_je6k44d wrote

If ri had a few connections to Europe and LATAM enough to promote competition, that would be great. I understand having to go to Boston for lengthy international journies like to Asia or Eastern Europe that the prov market could never support. But some of these routes to LATAM or Eastern Europe is literally 6 hours or under total. Short enough to be able to use a medium sized aircraft ( a321 for example) that can easily be filled due to its capacity of around 200 people.

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BitterStatus9 t1_je5vno3 wrote

There are other stories of airlines connecting small markets non-stop. I remember taking a (nice) 6-person corporate jet to and from Pittsburgh out of TF Green about 7 years ago, can't remember the name of the carrier. They disappeared.

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FranklinDC t1_je6341p wrote

Wow, how expensive was that??

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BitterStatus9 t1_je6g4ug wrote

I was able to expense it to a non-profit consulting client, so it couldn't have been that expensive. About what you'd pay to connect through Newark or O'Hare on a large carrier like United.

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Burn_ThemAll t1_je68tq5 wrote

Was it Sun Country? They were in PVD for a bit, I did a flight to Minneapolis a couple times and it was good but the airline pulled out after a year or two.

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platzie t1_je79dvo wrote

Sun Country is still flying out of PVD. They used to have a direct flight to New Orleans which they stopped doing, but the flight to Minneapolis is still going.

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Burn_ThemAll t1_je7femu wrote

Huh. Maybe it was temporarily suspended during the pandemic? I have family in MN and remember it was no longer offered, at least for a while. Good to know!

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platzie t1_je7gcmm wrote

I think it could also be seasonal. I just checked and their flights from PVD to MSP start Memorial Day weekend and go twice a week through August, then down to once a week before stopping in December.

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Burn_ThemAll t1_je7gzd3 wrote

Also good to know! Thanks for the info. I was last there in October, but I somehow had no idea Sun Country was running flights again. I booked with JetBlue out of Boston last trip!

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therealDrA OP t1_je6cwa2 wrote

I think they chartered a business jet (six seats). Apples and oranges.

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BitterStatus9 t1_je6fy9d wrote

It's not that different: a commercial carrier markets its trips on a regular schedule between two under-served (they think) airports. The requisite number of pax never shows up, and they fold. The only difference is the size of the plane. Providence is never going to generate enough non-stop traffic at prevailing prices to keep a carrier afloat, and the bigger the plane, the steeper the wall they need to climb to stay solvent.

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_je6ryub wrote

Not just that, but some of the flight paths were incredibly random. Providence to Ireland? Wildly popular with Americans, especially due to decently sized Irish populations located here.

Providence to.....Bergen Norway? Absolutely obscure and got cancelled a few months later due to lack of interest. Norway is a beautiful country, but there was never a market for Norwegians to flood into RI or RI to flood into the second most populated city in Norway

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