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PipeLayer2016 t1_itg6r3k wrote

They do. There are also a bunch of very nice rehabilitated multi family houses in the neighborhood, turned into affordable housing. They were pretty much wrecks before. Definitely spruces up the place.

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[deleted] t1_itge7wk wrote

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dc_dobbz t1_itgf5qf wrote

I don’t know the specifics of this development, but “Affordable” in gov parlance typically is “income restricted” not below market rate. You have to make below a certain amount of money to get one of the affordable units, unusually through a lottery, and then you’re guaranteed the rate you pay will no more than 30% of your income

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HistoricalDocument11 t1_itggw9j wrote

There was one of these buildings in my neighborhood with open units when I had to move last year. I made far below the maximum income for 1 person (but couldn’t afford the rent for the 1 bedroom). My roommate and I could afford the cost of splitting the 2 bedroom rent, but we make more than the maximum income for 2 people. The 30% of your income thing would make sense, but I don’t recall that being true of this income-restricted building.

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dc_dobbz t1_itgkxof wrote

I’ve worked on income-restricted developments in MA and DC, but never in RI, so maybe the system is different. But in those jurisdictions they use the HUD rules, which is what I described above.

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PipeLayer2016 t1_itgmzkh wrote

That's market rate. The affordable units are less. Look at the income guidelines on the website. They don't advertise the rental costs on the affordable units, but 1,465 would be too much for most of the incomes shown. I really want a top floor unit 2 bed 2 bath overlooking the river, but I don't think they have secured parking.

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evillordsoth t1_ith5ywb wrote

For a 875sq ft 2 bed in providence? Yeah, thats pretty affordable.

Same sq ft on mineral spring ave is 1875. Im sure it would be more on wickenden or east side

Is it adorable? Uh, maybe?

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Nethervex t1_ith5kkk wrote

>affordable housing.

1 bed 1 bath $1450 a month 650sqft

LMAO and that's the cheapest.

"affordable"

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PipeLayer2016 t1_itiuq57 wrote

Read the rest of the comments ding dong

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Nethervex t1_itj11uh wrote

The rest of the comments are whining about the use of the word "liberal" lmfao

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PipeLayer2016 t1_itj6zya wrote

The substantive comments about how the affordable housing units are funded, built, and priced. $1450 is not the rent for those tenants that qualify. Ding-a-ling.

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sugar_tom t1_itkr409 wrote

Last session there was legislation that would create a public developer — as in, the state would have a new body with the power to build a lot of new housing. It was introduced late and didn’t pass, but there’s a pilot program underway right now, and it’s going to be reintroduced this coming session. So, if you want more housing, keep an eye out and let your reps know you support this. https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/16/ri-housing-crisis-state-could-start-building-its-own-affordable-units-workforce-housing/9779515002/

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AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itg6ux9 wrote

Dead link but a relief to hear if true

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_itg81mm wrote

Not a dead link.

Mill development Olneyville, 101 units under

Mayor Jorge Elorza DEMOCRAT

Governor McKee DEMOCRAT

Sabina Matos DEMOCRAT

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AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itg8zdb wrote

I'm not being partisan; I'm aware that democrats are nominally less trash than republicans. By liberal I simply mean non-socialist

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moreobviousthings t1_itgdygr wrote

republicans tend to be conservative, which is the opposite of liberal. Democrats are liberal and tend to be progressive, which is also opposite to conservative. Socialism and communism are more about government organization than concepts like liberal, conservative, and progressive.

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do_not_engage t1_itgu3hk wrote

This is how average people use these words, but this is not correct. Those words have definitions that are much more complex.

Conservative is not the opposite of Liberal, for example. American politics will tell you they are - they are not. Conservatives and Liberals agree on many many political things, and are only divisive on a few specific political actions.

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AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itgtees wrote

Liberal literally just means "believes in capitalism"

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big_whistler t1_itgu4ix wrote

Youre using this term deliberately ignoring the context of American politics

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AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itgugfk wrote

Because in American politics terms seem to be deliberately misused to obfuscate the class based nature of our problems 🤔

Also this is how the terms are used among basically all American Marxists and socialists, American mainstream politics aren't politics they're a circus

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moreobviousthings t1_itguu4o wrote

Can you cite a source for that? Capitalism is strictly an economic construct, while liberalism is more broad and not specific to economics.

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lazydictionary t1_ithejtu wrote

If you didn't believe in capitalism you would probably be considered a socialist or maybe an anarchist.

Just read the intro on Wikipedia.

>However, they generally support private property, market economies...Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other trade barriers, instead promoting free trade and marketization.

Classical liberalism

Social liberalism [mainstream Democrats], which are usually defined as center-left or center, which is definitely capitalist

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