Submitted by Rogue-Island-Pirate t3_z2qsw0 in RhodeIsland
Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixi6m79 wrote
So sick of these anti-Catholic comments. They always talk about the pedophiles in the Catholic Church (which I agree is a problem), but conveniently leave out how many members of the LGBTQ community and public school employees are convicted pedophiles. And you don’t want a bishop who is anti-abortion and anti-lgbt? Those are literally catholic beliefs? How do expect a catholic bishop to not be catholic?
mhhkb t1_ixi9tah wrote
Please provide a list of public school employees who are convicted of pedophilia.
Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixibaos wrote
Lol what? There’s FAR to many to list. You could look it up online in a second and find recent articles about sexual assault from teachers, coaches, school officials, etc
breakmyheart01 t1_ixicka4 wrote
Here, I did the work for you as you told OC to do (not even OC) and it still proves you wrong:
"The report concluded that roughly 10 percent of students experience sexual misconduct by a teacher at some time during their K-12 school experience."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sex_abuse_cases_in_the_United_States
"The majority of accused priests in the United States (55.7%) had one formal allegation of abuse made against them, 26.4% had two or three allegations, 17.8% had four to nine allegations, and 3.5% had ten or more allegations."[
Let's not forget - the Catholic Church sex scandal has gone on for decades and this is only taking into account the people who have come forward. I am 100% certain both stats are undercounted.
the_silent_one1984 t1_ixil62t wrote
You are misreading. It is not saying 55.7% of priests are accused. It is saying out of the accused priests, 55.7% have had one formal allegation.
If you read further down in the article:
"The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002)."
So, yes, not denying it's a problem, but it's incorrect to say 55.7% of priests are accused child molesters.
breakmyheart01 t1_ixipet3 wrote
You are 100% correct - but I'd also like to point out that was just the Catholic church for that study. Let us not forget there are plenty of Evangelical, Mormon, and so on groomers. Let's look at the bigger picture shall we?
http://www.notinourchurch.com/statistics.html
https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-14-282
JoeFortune1 t1_ixitf2s wrote
One problem with these numbers is that many of the instances in the Church have been covered up. In public schools this is not usually the case with the exception of a winning sports coach who they don’t want to fire. The numbers in the Church are likely higher than the reports
Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixid9h2 wrote
How many public school employees are there in the US compared to priests? The number of public school employees is still higher. And the Catholic Church isn’t going to invite drag queens into my kids school
breakmyheart01 t1_ixie3zs wrote
Dud, it's not that hard - you're way more likely to get touched by a priest, family member, or clergy person than you are an outside LGBTQ+ person - The statistics are not on your side, yet your still here peddling BS.
Facts not feelings bro. I know you FEEL like the Catholic Church isn't the problem and I know you have your Catholic church bubble and love to protect child diddlers - but you should really come on over to reality. You sound like a groomer to me tbh.
aryawatching t1_ixie8ee wrote
What’s wrong with a drag queen in schools?
buddhamanjpb t1_ixigay5 wrote
The mental gymnastics that you Catholics use to try and come to terms with the fact that the church is full of, and run by child rapists is disgusting and abhorrent. I understand if you still want to worship God, but there are many other religions out there that worship the same God, go find one of those.
FourAM t1_iximia4 wrote
Drag Queens aren’t pedophiles you depraved fuck
Stop being misled by billionaires who want you to vote their taxes down by letting the fascists take control
You and your shit-tier intellect are more of a danger to my kids than a fucking drag queen will ever be
compulsory4fun t1_ixip7er wrote
If you’re more terrified by drag queens then you are about an organization that repeatedly enabled child molestation then you have some serious soul searching to do. Your words are that of a hateful lil bigot and I pity you. Stop trying to demonize a harmless activity (reading to kids) and equate it with pedophilia. It’s a nonsense argument and the fact that you can’t see that just proves your ignorance. It’s perverse rhetoric like yours that fuels hate against the LGBTQ community. And we see where that can lead. Please go back to the cesspool from whence you came!
BlushesandGushes t1_ixj462h wrote
Nope, no drag queens at the church, just "leaders" who will sexually abuse your children
JoeFortune1 t1_ixit58e wrote
What does Drag Queens have to do with pedophilia?
invadrzim t1_ixl5hd9 wrote
> And the Catholic Church isn’t going to invite drag queens into my kids school
What do drag queens even have to do with this argument?
Space_faces t1_ixqijzb wrote
Do you have a fetish for being wrong all the time or is it just a unique disability you have ?
compulsory4fun t1_ixinq4h wrote
Real nice whataboutism, lol. But seriously what bothers me about the church isn’t that it has a sex abuse problem, it’s that they deliberately covered it up for decades, not just in this country but in countries around the world. Pretty fucking sick and completely indefensible. It’s the institutional rot of the church and their sanctimonious moralizing that is especially galling. See the difference?!
JoeFortune1 t1_ixis9n8 wrote
I don’t see school officials covering up for pedos the way the Catholic Church covers up theirs
BlushesandGushes t1_ixj3h09 wrote
What is the name of the public school that moved its employees around for decades to avoid their employees from facing legal action, thereby guaranteeing that more children will be sexually abused?
JoeFortune1 t1_ixis2yg wrote
Why don’t you enlighten us with some facts about LGBTQ pedos? You don’t have them. You are making assumptions based on your own bigotry
whatsaphoto t1_ixismmg wrote
> And you don’t want a bishop who is anti-abortion and anti-lgbt? Those are literally catholic beliefs?
There are plenty of ideals that no longer are practiced or preached in the catholic church that were once "catholic beliefs".
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Working on sunday was once seen as a crime worthy of literal death, as sanctioned in Exodus 35:2.
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Selling your own daughter into the slave trade is also sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.
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If a guy sleeps with a woman and claims that she is not a virgin, the mom of the woman needs to bring a "cloth" "proving" that she's a "virgin". If a cloth can be provided and her virginity is proven, the guy is fined 100 sheckles of silver for slander. If no cloth cannot be provided, the woman is to be beat to death by her own neighbors.
> "If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you." - Dueteronomy 22:19-21
- If a man rapes a woman, the only punishment should be 50 sheckles of silver paid to the woman's father. The woman is now obligated to marry the man who raped her and is not to divorce her for as long as she lives, as sanctioned in Dueteronomy 22:28
Fuck out of here with the whataboutism in the name of the lord. Just accept the fact that the catholic church has proven to have cherry-picked specific things to preach hate against and which to casually, conveniently ignore. They are as ancient and as vile and as outdated as could possibly be in 2022, and are guilty are far more sins than they profess the LGBT community have committed.
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Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixib3p9 wrote
You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’ll keep being Catholic! ❤️
Largest contributors to charity in the world btw
Pdmnt t1_ixibmbd wrote
You mean politics, not charities. Another thing (politics) Jesus didn't like and yet all of his "followers" take part. I swear, you people never actually read the book you keep shoving in everyone's face
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distortionisgod t1_ixibf7l wrote
Have fun supporting a church that directly goes against Jesus' teaching.
I'm sure he'd really love the horde of wealth the Vatican has amassed, it's really such a nice Christian value to hoard wealth for generations and protect rapists! Such a lovely tribute to god!
buddhamanjpb t1_ixigj1g wrote
>Largest contributors to charity in the world btw
What an odd way to rationalize being a Catholic.
Imagine going to a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving and donating your time and money, and then raping a child that night and thinking, it's cool, I did a bunch of charity work today.
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invadrzim t1_ixl5cnf wrote
> but conveniently leave out how many members of the LGBTQ community and public school employees are convicted pedophiles
BUt wHataboUt…!!!
Tobin didn’t act on abuse he knew about because it wasn’t “his job”, but nothing was stopping him from calling the police
What a great speciman of the Catholic Church you got in him
[deleted] t1_ixpxeey wrote
Love the faithful, hate the faith. Some individual catholics are wonderful people, and Catholicism as a business and an institution is a vile and evil thing. Both of these things are true.
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