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5abbingia t1_iy02y80 wrote

That's not the definition of reasonable, which means according to reason.

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AngelOmega7 t1_iy03l71 wrote

“According to reason” if a person buys a non-zero amount of lottery tickets that doesn’t impact their finances, that is a perfectly fine amount to buy.

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algabana t1_iy0377n wrote

what if they buy them for the thrill and not because they expect to win? its not a financial decision its entertainment.

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5abbingia t1_iy03g4o wrote

I see your point, but the thrill comes from the expectation of winning, doesn't it? And that's an unreasonable expectation.

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PM_ur_Rump t1_iy06x62 wrote

It's unreasonable to say "I can give $2 to the lottery fund every few months, which goes to help support state programs, daydream a bit about being a millionaire, and not at all miss the money?" It's basically a donation with a chance of a payout.

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BetterFuture22 t1_iy07qao wrote

Yes, hence nickname of "poor people tax"

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PM_ur_Rump t1_iy09bx0 wrote

A voluntary donation is not a tax.

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BetterFuture22 t1_iy0oybr wrote

That's why I put it in quotes, clever one.

Let's be real, the vast majority of purchasers are people who don't have a lot of money - if they were better at math, they'd realize they're just throwing that money away.

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PM_ur_Rump t1_iy1jsi4 wrote

But it's not throwing money away. It's just spending money on something that they want to spend money on. Yes, if you are buying a bunch of tickets regularly, it quickly becomes a form of real gambling with terrible odds, but for most it's just a buck or two that doesn't really hurt them. No different than spending money on anything just because you want it. It's not an investment, it's just a game with a side of charity. "Poor" people are allowed to perform acts of charity too.

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heidismiles t1_iy0409u wrote

Have you never fantasized about being wealthy before? Are you from Earth?

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algabana t1_iy049e4 wrote

there is a chance of winning isnt there? it doesnt have to outweigh the cost to be thrilling

take it this way: i know that by buying $20 worth of tickets every week i will be losing on average $5 a week. on the other hand, every week theres a 10% chance i end up making $100, the thrill of that is an experience worth more than $5 according to me.

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5abbingia t1_iy092m5 wrote

But the chance is one on several thousands, not 10%

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algabana t1_iy098j1 wrote

doesnt matter, on average youre losing either way. the point is that the thrill may be worth the cost

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MooPig48 t1_iy07vgd wrote

Expectation? I don’t really think anyone has that expectation. Hope, sure.

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mmft_93 t1_iy03ani wrote

Everyone's sense of reason is different based on their own experiences though 0.o so however much they can buy without hurting themselves seems reasonable no?

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drumsripdrummer t1_iy05ew2 wrote

You can smoke a little bit of crack without hurting yourself, but that doesn't make it reasonable

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PM_ur_Rump t1_iy06kxk wrote

I mean, if it doesn't hurt you and you get some enjoyment out of it...

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The_one_maybe t1_iy08btf wrote

Happiness is a very individual thing, and is inherently unreasonable, as it cannot always be reasoned out. A reasonable amount may not be the best way to put it, but an amount that brings about happiness at a greater rate per dollar than other alternatives would be the most logical decision to put money intended for enjoyment on. I see where you're coming from, as the lottery is a terrible investment, but a couple dollars for a chance to dream may be a small price to pay for many.

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icecoldfivefold t1_iy0b2pq wrote

You have $400,000.00 in the bank. There's a chance spending $1.00 will get you $485,000,000.00. is my mom unreasonable for buying the ticket or are you unreasonable that a dollar is too much to risk on a small chance of millions? Lmao

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