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no_more_jokes t1_j8v8xpj wrote

Wes Moore spoke at my college before he was a politician. He talked about the experience of writing his book The Other Wes Moore, which is a fantastic read and one I highly recommend -- I've met few people who think about the issues their communities face as deeply or take them as seriously as he does. Maryland has a good one, that's for sure.

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Lord_Metagross t1_j8vdukr wrote

He spoke at my college (maybe both of ours if the timeline works out) like 6 years back. Can confirm the book is a great read, and he's really a pleasant person to talk to as well.

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beadingbeauty97 t1_j8wiyze wrote

I forgot about that book until just now! It was a summer reading assignment so at first I didn’t like it, but I got swept into it and ended up loving it!

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OlDirtyTriple t1_j8woy0f wrote

Eh...

ORP is a consortium of fisheries associations, very closely affiliated with Delmarva Fisheries and various watermen's organizations. They also will donate a good amount of this $9.1 million to the political campaigns of local and state level elected officials.

ORP is not a conservation association. Their mission statement and goals are couched in the language of conservation, but their aims are to maintain the commercial oyster fishery, not to restore the Chesapeake. Much of ORP's leadership are former Maryland Dept. of Natural Resources employees. DNR has previously awarded numerous no-bid contracts in the 7-8 figure range to ORP, without State oversight or accountability. A lot of this taxpayer money was ending up in the coffers of industry lobbyists who went back to Annapolis to give it to Delegates asking for them to keep the checkbook open. Its a circular process and it's pretty ugly. There's no oversight on the money once it's in their hands. There is also extremely lax/nonexistent contract management for the actual recovery work, ie, dredging projects, spat-on-shell, etc. No State officials are monitoring progress. We take their word for it.

Source: I am a Maryland state employee intimately familiar with the local "Old Boy" network. I can see the ledger, in short. DNR was told by the previous Board of Public Works to stop giving Sole Source (No Bid) contracts to ORP. Moore just gave them 9 million dollars. This is not a conservation victory.

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MagnumBlunts t1_j8wvvgr wrote

And nothing ever changes smh. What could be something great is ruined before it even started by corruption. So many cycles of cash flow back and forth between organizations and local government that rarely gets even a second look. So many industries filled with group corruption

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OlDirtyTriple t1_j8wz424 wrote

My take:

Moore just appointed the former executive director of the Chesapeake Bay Foundation (which is a legit conservation organization) to head Maryland's Dept. of Natural Resources. ORP and other fisheries groups flipped out because they don't want actual regulations and environmental laws might prevent them from making the maximum amount of money.

This is Moore throwing them a bone.

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AquamanMVP t1_j8wx0ff wrote

r/halfshell come and post your pictures of oysters !

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hawkaulmais t1_j8uv0iv wrote

Wish my governor would do something like this. There might be, but likely not. Quick Google search didn't bring anything up. But gotta bus migrants to blue states.

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Alexir23 t1_j8z5bfk wrote

Moore is my governor and I wish he would fix Baltimore...

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mcnello t1_j8vg6iw wrote

I thought blue states were sanctuary states for immigrants though.

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Geichalt t1_j8wk4t9 wrote

They're actually a sanctuary for everyone to get away from the failing leadership of the red states.

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mcnello t1_j8wkubr wrote

Have you seen where people are migrating to? Out of New York and California, and into Florida and Texas. People are voting with their feet.

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Lonevvolf_ t1_j8wmrur wrote

Do you seriously think people leave because they want to support Abbot and DeSantis?

LOL it’s not politics, it’s because of cost of living.

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Trucker58 t1_j8wq8oy wrote

I’ve met several people here in my red area of California that specifically cited politics as the reason for moving to Texas/Florida/Carolinas. Now the real reason may definitively be cost of living issues. But I don’t find it that far fetched to see the ultra conservative people moving for political (or perceived political) reasons. Many of them probably moved here from these states in the first place.

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FightTomorrow t1_j8wzkql wrote

I met several people in my area that specifically cited cost of living.

Does that mean our anecdotal experiences cancel out into a null data set?

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Geichalt t1_j8wkwjz wrote

Incorrect

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mcnello t1_j8wl9o3 wrote

[Florida (318,855), Texas (230,961), and the Carolinas – North Carolina (99,796) and South Carolina (84,030) – were the states with the most net domestic migration gains in 2022. 

However, California (-343,230), New York (-299,557), and Illinois (-141,656) experienced the largest net domestic outmigration. ](https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/where-people-moved-in-2022#:~:text=Twenty%2Dsix%20states%20experienced%20an,domestic%20migration%20gains%20in%202022.)

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hawkaulmais t1_j8wmhbi wrote

That just means ppl are moving. I don't see anything about political affiliation. I've also seen plenty of ppl comment on r/texas they regret moving here.

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Geichalt t1_j8wncjd wrote

Red states require more migration because people die quicker in red states. Conservative policies lead to early deaths. Blue states are sanctuaries from those policies.

>The October report found that if all states implemented liberal policies on the environment, gun safety, criminal justice, health and welfare, labor, marijuana, and economic and tobacco taxes, more than 170,000 lives would have been saved in 2019. On the flip side, if states went with conservative versions of those policies, there would have been about 217,000 more deaths that year — “the equivalent of a 600-passenger airplane crashing every day of the year,” the study said. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/znfhsz/can_politics_kill_you_research_says_the_answer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

>In Trump states, the rate was 8.20 murders per 100,000 residents. In Biden states, the rate was 5.78 murders per 100,000 residents. "These Biden-voting states include the 'crime-is-out-of-control' cities of Los Angeles, New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Portland, Baltimore, and Minneapolis,"

>"Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy’s Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump."

From Third Way: https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem

>Support for the Republican candidate in the 2016 election is a marker for physical conditions, economic circumstances, and cultural forces associated with opioid use. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2685627

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garblesmarbles1 t1_j8wop0m wrote

I would think the majority of the reason people left their areas was their jobs became fully remote and decided to move to warmer LCOL areas while still making HCOL wages so they basically got a big pay increase for moving somewhere cheaper.

I would dare to say at least 75% of the people who left did it for financial reasons not political.

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hawkaulmais t1_j8za4rq wrote

That's what I was reading TX and FL don't have state income tax. That was the top reason.

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TarantinoFan23 t1_j8wm34h wrote

When said immigrants eariler, you should've said domestic immigrants. Because it seemed like you meant immigrant from another country.

Seems like you don't know the difference between US and other countries

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Monstermart t1_j8wvc67 wrote

They’re moving for land. With the money I could spend on a 2 bedroom condo 45 minutes outside of Boston I could by a 5 bedroom 2 bath full house with a two car garage. That’s why people are moving.

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therealnumberone t1_j8wv81f wrote

They can be, but dropping 100 people off without warning in the middle of the city on CHRISTMAS EVE makes it a bit tricky to find them somewhere to go immediately

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AzureDreamer t1_j8wlg0h wrote

I love oysters it would be very sad if we over. Fished them out of existence

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Mehnard t1_j8wnga6 wrote

Murrells Inlet, SC would be a good place to conduct a research project. Forty years ago I could fill a bucket with nice selects in 30 minutes just walking from the shore. I quit picking oysters years ago because the quantity and size diminished so much. Too many people picking on too few beds. It doesn't help that development is causing many of the beds to permanently close.

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AquamanMVP t1_j8wwwd6 wrote

r/halfshell come and post your pictures of oysters !

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effervescent_idiot t1_j8wpw96 wrote

I'm an Oyster loving Marylander, but I hope this is more about revitalizing the bay water than keeping the industry moving. It may not be in the cards to do both. What's worth more?

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AquamanMVP t1_j8wx2of wrote

r/halfshell come and post your pictures of oysters !

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cargdad t1_j8wn8aj wrote

And there was much rejoicing.

Oddly, our good friends daughter was involved in the research behind the project as part of her Masters program. It’s not edge of the seat exciting stuff, but the oyster “business” relies on clean waters, and is part of life for the beach communities in many areas.

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Riversntallbuildings t1_j8wtnfi wrote

Oysters are so good for the environment. It’s amazing at how much dirty water a single oyster can filter and clean up.

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Shenanigamii t1_j8wu0am wrote

That 9 million dollars could also be used to fix the damn roads in Baltimore.

Ohh wait...F1 paid them to do that for the races there, but that money went to the politicians pockets instead...

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R0b0Saurus t1_j8wo9bl wrote

Oysters are so very important to the health of the bays ecosystem. And delicious

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AquamanMVP t1_j8wx3yh wrote

r/halfshell come and post your pictures of oysters !

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meme_lord04 t1_j8v1b5b wrote

How is this on r/popular with 68 upvotes ?

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RedeemedJoshua t1_j8wvco5 wrote

Anyone know if zebra mussels are affecting them?

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justingod99 t1_j8wk8dr wrote

He awarded a grant. But to who? Or will asking this question get me banned?

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joofish t1_j8wl8sw wrote

Yep, don’t tell anyone, but the mods of /r/upliftingnews are in the pockets of big oyster. Read the article before jumping to conspiracy at least bc it answers that question in the first two sentences

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frowavay1 t1_j8wm4lj wrote

Buts it’s sooo much easier to express uninformed outrage than it is to read.

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justingod99 t1_j8ycsbb wrote

Outrage? He is giving $9M millions in taxpayer funds to a single non-profit. Can I ask for people’s opinion on said non-profit?

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frowavay1 t1_j8yhz8d wrote

You totally can. But you absolutely did not in your first comment.

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okram2k t1_j8wmywm wrote

Okay I read it. The sentence after has me concerned again. "The funds are said to foster essential capital projects for museums, community centers, medical and athletic facilities, community revitalization, and historical buildings."

Those are all great things but have nothing to do with preserving oysters unless there's a city named Oyster or something.

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joofish t1_j8wqj41 wrote

That’s referring to the 13.7 million in public works funding not the 9.1 million oyster grant. If you read a couple more sentences, you will find out what the oyster preservation organization does.

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okram2k t1_j8ws0rk wrote

Okay. I re-read that paragraph three times. And I think I finally kind of understand it. But it was written absolutely awfully. Mentioning the public works funding first in an article about oyster preservation is really god damn confusing.

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AutomaticOcelot5194 t1_j8wmo6w wrote

The Oyster Recovery Partnership, it's a non profit which has been around since the 90s. ORP has also done projects with UMD and a number of local school districts. So they are a legit group who is doing good work

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justingod99 t1_j8ybe3n wrote

Thanks for the info! Good to hear, I used to inspect non-profits and it’s typically hard to find ones that don’t have some form of ulterior motive.

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CrabEnthusist t1_j8wmsfp wrote

If only there was some sort of article that explained it.

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GaySkull t1_j8wu10x wrote

A perfectly good question, it says so right in the article:

>The governor announced in a Board of Public Works meeting that $13.7 million in Capital Grants funding and a $9.1 million contract for the non-profit Oyster Recovery Partnership had been awarded. The funds are said to foster essential capital projects for museums, community centers, medical and athletic facilities, community revitalization, and historical buildings.

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>The Oyster Recovery Partnership is a non-profit organization that collects recycled shell and plants hatchery-reared oysters for reef construction in Maryland’s large-scale oyster restoration tributaries. The funding will support efforts to enhance native oyster populations. It will also help meet the goals of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed Agreement of 2014, as well as Maryland’s Oyster Restoration and Aquaculture Development Plan.

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>In addition, the board also approved $1 million for the Department of Natural Resources to conduct surveys to identify oyster habitats and plant hatchery-reared oysters on reefs in the Eastern Bay sanctuaries of the Chesapeake Bay.

More info on the Oyster Recovery Partnership here.

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