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sounds like it’s gonna be a great time for the fans 👏👏👏

Fan-tastic news :)

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It's pretty common to have a designated quiet room near the nursing station at a large venue when hosting certain concerts. It's where the medics plant the people having bad trips.

It had to be extra large when Phish was playing.

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You find it disconcerting that people find comfort and empathy in art created by people going through the same struggles? Ok.

I don’t like this guy’s music but he’s helping to remove the stigma of mental health and possibly provide help for someone that might not be able to easily find it in their normal life.

All I'm saying is that artists are dealing with the brunt of our social issues. It's a shame for them because, as you say, they are doing some good.

Orrrr they're just acknowledging and accommodating issues that are and have always been present?

There arent more trans people now, but people swear there are purely because they don't hide their identify anymore.

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You did miss something, I was making an analogy.

Good thing you aren't in charge of anything then.

They probably weren’t going and that’s why this guy went out of his way to make it more accessible to his own fans so they can enjoy it too. It’s not that they’re demanding anything this is just an artist doing something nice to be accommodating and let people enjoy a concert when they might have had a hard time without accommodation.

Why do you not want them to go? Does it negatively affect you at all? I’m so confused why you would say that lol

People really don’t understand what mental health even means still. Like the idea that if you struggle with anxiety/depression etc. you shouldn’t go out and try to enjoy your life is literally insane

Okay i just went to Phish on new years with my brother and my cousin. They took shrooms and my brother immediately started having a bad trip once the music started playing and had to walk arouund outside for like half the show. WHERE were those tents when I needed one.

Fr. Apply this to any other condition and it sounds terrible. “If people need an ASL translator to go to a concert, I’d rather they didn’t go at all”.

And something like a safe space isn’t intrusive at all. Like if you don’t need a safe space or anything, how does it affect you. If you don’t think mental health is a real problem than a safe space is gonna be the last place you should be. Nobodies forcing you to experience the concert any differently. So weird

Lol this guy sucks

I like a few of his songs but yeah most of it has big Gen Z energy I can't really relate to.

Lmao

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So like what kind of style of music is his? Because I remember being at a few metal concerts, and the only areas of anything physical, like Mash Pits, you learned to avoid if you didn't want to be near (or other people watched out for you)

Plus I honest have to ask, why would someone need a mental health safe space at a concert? Like for me, I can't see what would trigger something bad that would require something like this, but maybe that's just me

Next time find the table with the yellow balloons. The Phellowship crew rocks (especially if Dana is there). Hope you had a good time at the show, at least!

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Drugs

A very VERY brief trip through Spotify seems like his music is on the emo/pop My Chemical Romance spectrum.

I’d imagine with folks indulging in a variety of mind altering substances, having a safe space to work through a bad experience is a lot better option than being escorted out by security or taking a ride in an ambulance.

It's not uncommon for people to get overwhelmed at concerts, even when not in a physical space like the pit. Concerts are loud, crowded, and hot.

People with any number of disorders from anxiety to ASD could get overwhelmed. Having an out of the way safe space they can retreat to if that happens means more people can enjoy the concert.

Him having this may mean people who would normally never go to a concert may go to his.

“Everything was spinning and I came to in the chill out tent, they gave us orange juice and cigarettes”

Why?

It was uhm interesting to see him live at a festival.

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Cool band but was a hell of a night for me personally hahaha.

He's not my type of music I'm a bit out of his age demographic but damn Yungblud seems like a nice humble person

Ahhh gotcha! That makes sense

There's that too (though I have never understood this concept, but, I know a concert varies for each)

Honestly, puts on a fantastic show. I was pleasantly surprised. He comes off as a very genuine person.

Edit: removed an extra word

But you added 5 words, net gain of 4.

Every festival I've been to, you know you're near one when you see a bunch of people wearing aluminum foil as a cape.

Never saw Phish live, so I dont know how common "just wrap them up in some tin foil" is for other kinds of festivals/live shows.

overstimulation and claustrophobia are big ones I can think of!! (also drugs)

Then don’t go to concerts

Where you answering the first or the second question? xD

Yes

Thank god there’s a safe room for all the drugs I’m about to consume

I went to the Taylor Hawkins tribute at Wembley last year and I wouldn’t have made it through the show without the wonderful stewards who could see I was struggling and kept a very watchful but respectful eye on me. This can only be a good thing all round and anyone critical of it has hopefully never been in a situation that requires help like this.

This makes me interested to see this artist. I'm well out of the age group. Think Tori Amos, Nirvana, NIN... Something about his self awareness as an artist makes him interesting.

The wife and I were at ACL this year and saw this guy on a hot Sunday morning rocking out for his fans. His crowd wasn’t massive , but the fans that were there seemed to be having a great time and he was really engaged with them.

We weren’t even trying to see him. We just noticed the show on our way to another one and couldn’t help but respect him for putting on a great show for his fans

Great idea regardless of the quality of music.

I’ve seen him on a couple UK comedy panel shows and he comes across like an absolute sweetheart - it’s hard to be ‘fake’ in that kind of setting.

From the article: “During the shows, a safe space – which will have qualified councillors, alongside a helpdesk to answer any questions will be available – and an email helpline outside the arenas will provide help.”

Sounds like general mental health services.

I love that kiddo!

A safe space, and better crowd control for safely! That’s an amazing way to show how much you love your fans.

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Autism as well. Concerts can be fun but it's really easy to get overstimulated. I would definitely take advantage of a space like this if it was available.

Edit: I just reread your comment and realized I basically repeated what you said. Sorry, it's like 3am here and I'm not thinking clearly

‘Mash’ pits??? Isn’t it mosh pits?

Would that apply to a wheelchair user too? Or somebody with cancer?

From what I know he's really big on advocating MH issues and that's is only a good thing

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i learned about the Phellowship from someone in AA. what a cool idea.

You have fantastic taste, don't spoil it listening to this guy.

Is he bad? I kinda figured. I think I just dont like the modern trends in song writing and in who the public wants to hear. I've found some amazing songs that are really cool on SoundCloud but the artists don't have a lot of attention from major distributors/labels.

Society is doomed

lol

mash pits 🤣

I'm guessing they've never read the word before. Mash is a fairly accurate description of what happens in a mosh pit so I can see how someone could mishear it.

Msg was bananas :)

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I had a panic attack in the crowd at a gig last summer, was a bit of a nightmare getting myself out (it was the Paul McCartney headline set at Glastonbury so a huge crowd of perhaps 100k). Sometimes these things can just happen out of the blue, almost without reason, it wasn't like it was a rowdy crowd or anything, just bang! panic attack! I managed to get myself out of the back of the crowd and to somewhere quiet to ride it out.

Are you referring to the reflective emergency medical blankets? They're reflective so they warm people up super fast and take up very little space in a first aid kit.

Me too, before the show I'd pretty much decided that it was going to suck, very cynical about the image and some of the music choices/influences but it was nonstop entertaining and yep genuine. Sometimes you just naturally are something that other people choose to fake.

Watching the interaction with the guitarist was fun too, they're best mates, they work together, they've lived together and you can still tell that sometimes, that guy is really, really annoyed :)

Crowds, mostly. Getting squished or feeling you can't escape, touching people you don't know, lots of noise, overload. Emotional overload too, that goes all the way back to Elvis and probably further, my mum could have done with a mental health safe space when she saw the Beatles...

Physical plays a part too, dehydration or exhaustion can be pretty heavy triggers especially for those unused to it. Plus, sometimes too much drink, or drugs. AND there was this whole pandemic thing, even old hands like me are still not really match fit (it's really only this year that I've really got my gig reflexes back, and that's a skill I'd been working on for about 25 years) lots of people are less comfortable and there's this whole surge of new gig-goers that missed out on 2 years.

Last bad one I helped with was at a my chemical romance show- panic attack, the person had some history of that but it was triggered simply by the excitement and the anticipation kicking them into a state of emotional overload, and then that getting magnified by feeling surrounded and not able to get out so it got really bad. It was the person's first big show post-pandemic too.

(and exactly like Yungblud, there you've got a rock show that'll be attended by a lot of people that are not normally at rock shows, so inexperience and other people's experience is a multiplier. Only reason I was involved- most of the kids around them were inexperienced, I'm an old hand.)

Last one I had, was at a Sepultura show, I was having a great time but I just plain ran out of oxygen in the pit and couldn't get myself out, and then in that state being helped did not feel like being helped. I've gone to hundreds of gigs and been in hundreds of pits but that was like flipping a switch in my head. Never happened to me any other time at a show, even at properly dangerous ones when people have been leaving in ambulances, I'm usually the person that hauls other people out. That's the nature of a mental health crisis really, it's not predictable, it doesn't follow rules.

It seems like in practice it's going to be more of an expansion of the traditional first aid place/chillout room, or maybe better to say it's expanding the perception of those.

And that's great! People tend to expect those to be for drugs and injuries, and pretty much a place of last resort, but not always for mental health issues. If people feel that it's appropriate and encouraged to seek out a safe space then that's important.

God forbid someone try to push their limits a little bit and then realize they messed up.

Having a designated quiet zone might make the difference between someone being able to take a break and then get back out there, and having to leave entirely (at which point they'll probably never give a concert a try again because of the awful experience)

Lmao at you thinking this is anything new. "Quiet zone" tents are standard at most concerts where the demographic is mostly people who like to get super high. If someone's having a bad trip, having a quiet zone makes the difference between them being able to come down safely, vs having to go to the fucking hospital.

Wanna explain to me what's so funny about that?

He talks a lot about mental health with his fans and does his best to empower them. There's a really good Yungblood interview by Louis Theroux on BBC iPlayer, worth watching. Here's a clip

They didn’t read the fucking book.

"Quiet zone" I completely understand. I've been to concerts with high drug use around. A "mental health safe space" for a concert while showing a picture of a dude wearing rabbit ears, lmao. It's ridiculous to me.

Yeah start to see this is a possibility I just haven't had to deal with myself (but is very possible)

I imagine for a lot of people this would be the first and only exposure they've had to any kind of mental health care. Lots of people everywhere and in general need some help. When everyday life can be overwhelming, you better bet that an intense experience like a crowded concert can be even moreso.

Do you think it could be a lifeprotip to go to his concert for a therapy sesh if you are tired of being put on waitlists for therapists?

Just checked and I can get a ticket to his nearest show for $29. That's cheaper than any other mental health services I know of, not a bad idea.

Be careful if you're using them to warm up attorneys, though, it might corrupt them and send them on a spiraling path of self-destruction where they try to ruin their con-artist brother's life and eventually burn themselves to death.

I met him at work a few weeks ago and can confirm he’s a lovely guy.

I always bring my taters to a metal show. You can cook them, fry them or stick them in a mash. Pit people help them mash faster

You're talking to a brick wall. His retort will likely be something along the lines of: "like I said, don't go to concerts then". The idea of including people that have some kind of hardship is totally foreign to so many people. Even when it's something simple that harms no one, takes nothing away from anybody, and they wouldn't even be aware of going on unless someone told them about it. Hopefully I'm wrong though! And I appreciate that someone still has the patience to shout into the void the obvious human compassion that should be the bare minimum standard though!

I've found his music to be pretty enjoyable. "Loner" is a banger and "Polygraph Eyes" made me cry because I've had to take care of people who went through situations like that. Not to mention his colabs with Avril Lavigne, so much fun

Where's a chicanery tent when you need one.

I’m afraid I don’t get the reference; would you mind enlightening me?

Better Call Saul.

Jimmy's brother, Chuck, uses one of those emergency medical blankets to calm himself down when his phobia of electricity gets especially bad. He's also a gigantic ass who tries to prevent Jimmy from turning his life around at all costs, and builds most of the foundation of the Saul Goodman persona by doing so.

Watch luis Theroux does a whole hour interview with him. He is very ADHD