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cneueidb t1_j2jlgll wrote

$100k+ to be comfortable. $80k to be vaguely comfortable. Anything less and it’s paycheck to paycheck struggle. Under $60k and you’ll have debt for sure. If you want to commute 1.5-3 hours a day you might be ok living on lower amounts but it’s stressful. You used to be able to live alright on $20hourly but not anymore.

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freckledtabby t1_j2khf68 wrote

I agree. Would you say for an American middle-class lifestyle a family of 4 in any Western Washington metro area should make $150-250 a year to have the same lifestyle the middle class enjoyed in the early '80s---yearly vacations, sending kids to college, house with bedrooms for everyone, etc.?

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cneueidb t1_j2nhl7j wrote

Probably. I mean, it’s all perspective. This area definitely makes people materialistic and encourages having “things” and “education” plus inflation and cost of living equals “you need to make more money” unfortunately. If you want to be more simple and content, I’ve seen plenty of people live comfortably on less. But it’s all what you want out of life tbh.

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