Edit: As in one of the places to avoid that every city has
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DvrthKen OP t1_j21kfzm wrote
Great insight, thank you! I won’t be able to visit again before I move unfortunately, but I’ll check BPD
Critical_Composer106 t1_j21yhpj wrote
25th and barclay here, i like it that i’m close enough to greenmount that the rent is cheap, i don’t feel unsafe but its gritty enough to keep my family visiting down
suppinmajibusu t1_j247oce wrote
Keeping your family from visiting may be a plus.
chainlinksawakening t1_j2540m0 wrote
Lol smalltimore. We've probably crossed paths. Same cross street.
Seletixarp t1_j21jy1j wrote
It’s kind of an in-between? Barclay Avenue itself (and eastern roads near Greenmount) south of 25th are sketch. North of 25th is practically CV. Guilford, Calvert, and streets west (south of 25th)… it’s weird, because some of those are classified as CV (like Guilford south of 25th gets the green trash cans and pays like CV does), or Old Goucher. If you’re looking at a specific property (regardless of any location), it’s always best to scout it out during daytime and nighttime.
DvrthKen OP t1_j21kwnc wrote
Yeah, it’s south of 25th. That’s great advice and great insight. Thank you!!
PoopIsAlwaysSunny t1_j21olor wrote
I support the above poster. Those neighborhoods are very mixed, but basically east and south are where it gets sketchier. But it’s really not as simple as all that. Go down during the day, and if it looks nice, go down on a Friday night.
But Barclay st south of 25th for someone who doesn’t know Baltimore is not a great spot. Guilford isn’t too bad. I know several women in that area with mixed reviews of safety
crusaderq42 t1_j24vr3f wrote
Are you referring to Goucher maybe? If Guilford is in the cards, that would definitely be a step up above Barclay. A couple tax brackets to be exact.
PoopIsAlwaysSunny t1_j24wa9s wrote
I meant guilford ave, that runs parallel to barclay.
Both are in or close to the Old Goucher neighborhood
Mikel32 t1_j22c1xs wrote
“Sketchy” areas stay sketchy until people commit to living their and commit to helping better the community.
Jrbobfishman t1_j22v3qe wrote
Until the non-sketchy people get inadequate support from law enforcement and city leadership. Then they take their non-sketchy, broken and beat down asses to less sketchy areas
sxswnxnw t1_j23k8we wrote
Well, the way it usually goes is nonsketchy POCs, LGBTQ folks, and poor folks turn it into something livable, and then the other people that are used to being generally accommodated in society and aren't at all used to getting their asses beat and broken move in and act like they have always been there.
RealDocJames t1_j24x52a wrote
FACTS!
Mikel32 t1_j25m5na wrote
Big Facts.
Jrbobfishman t1_j26i4hj wrote
no, it’s usually young blue collar artists and craftsman (regardless of race,identity,ect) who decide to be urban homesteaders. You don’t need to part of any group to fix up an old row house or run when you figure out that the juice isn’t worth the squeeze
DfcukinLite t1_j2dlyr0 wrote
They move in with the “artists”, but that’s 3rd wave after the gays/LGBTQ during the second wave.
DfcukinLite t1_j222wob wrote
It’s in transition. It just looks sketchier than it is in certain parts of the neighborhood. Keep your general good wits about you. You’re not in any immediate danger living there.
sacrificebundt t1_j21ajx5 wrote
On a sketch scale, least sketch at the top, I’d say, idk, top half? Top third? It’s got some upside.
CaptainStudly t1_j21ceju wrote
Are you measuring absolute sketch or is this normalized for Baltimore?
sacrificebundt t1_j21greb wrote
Normalized to Baltimore. That stretch on Greenmount between North and 25th is a bit sketch but it’s filling in further west.
DvrthKen OP t1_j21gmdh wrote
It’s right by station north and Charles village, which are both dope when I was checking places out. I mean I’ve lived in Peru and am coming from one of the more “dangerous” cities in the US and it’s always been fine. I know there are places to avoid in every city, and was wondering if this was one of those.
sacrificebundt t1_j21jamc wrote
It’s not one of the neighborhoods that you need to avoid. There’s plenty of investment going on south and west, less in the neighborhood rn. I bike through it on Guilford from time to time and it’s fine?
DvrthKen OP t1_j21l9nw wrote
Perfect. It seems great, but I just wanted to make sure. I really appreciate it.
Hansel4407 t1_j21hsfq wrote
It’s on most peoples avoid list, but use your own judgement.
Here is a helpful resource - https://arcgisportal.baltimorepolice.org/publiccrimemap/
sxswnxnw t1_j23kty9 wrote
Just want to add I used this (among other resources) when I was looking for a house. Literally every neighborhood has crime of some sort. Yes, every single one, including Roland Park, Federal Hill, and Locust Point. It's humanity, it's not just Baltimore. The useful thing about this tool is it allows you to get an idea of the types of crimes that are happening and you can look pretty far back to see if certain crimes are outliers or typical.
CaptainObvious110 t1_j232oqs wrote
Wow! That was uh, truly eye opening! Lots and lots of larceny. I'm honestly wondering what time these crimes took place though? Especially the aggravated assaults, the shootings and the homicides.
sxswnxnw t1_j23l05j wrote
You can click on individual crimes for more info. There was one other tool I was using that I can't remember right now and it let me get to an even more detailed level, but this was a useful one if you want basic information about where and when.
Recommend using a laptop or desktop computer, not a smartphone or tablet.
CaptainObvious110 t1_j23tgiq wrote
Ok, thanks. It's a very interesting map for sure and I'll definitely have a time with this later
MZ-E620Throwaway t1_j21jqdx wrote
My partner lived over there for a little while and was generally fine - heard gunshots once or twice, but by and large it's just a neighborhood. No attempted break-ins or anything. Lot of JHU kids live there, and my car never got broken into or anything on the dozens of nights I parked on the street
DvrthKen OP t1_j21l5nm wrote
Word, that’s great to hear. Thank you very much! Great insight!
UptownHiFi t1_j22dyrv wrote
I would recommend contacting the Greater Greenmount Community Assn, a great local volunteer organization. They can give you a resident’s perspective and bring you up to date with all that’s going on.
Beneficial_Truth4351 t1_j24hdbi wrote
There's a couple spots where people sell drugs at night, but that neighborhood is pretty mellow.
reese-dewhat t1_j21tf6t wrote
Barclay is great!
K_N0RRIS t1_j23oiir wrote
It really depends on the block. In this city you could be on 3 separate blocks only a traffic light away and each one will have a different safety feel to the other. You really need to get boots on a ground to get a real safety feeling. Residents make a neighborhood safe, not a website rating based on surveys from people who probably never even lived there.
bOhsohard t1_j24cumh wrote
I lived in barclay off 23rd for 5 years. There is honestly more sex work in the neighborhood than violent crime. I never felt like I was in danger walking home from bars late at night, and felt a real sense of community from my neighbors up and down the block.
Feel free to ask me more about the neighborhood, I loved it and if I never left Baltimore would still live there
sit_down_man t1_j25ffre wrote
I live pretty much right there. It’s a fine area for the most part. Depends on the street, but during the day you’re completely fine regardless. That said, I wouldn’t really be hanging out in the middle of the night at like greenmount and 24th lol, but that’s all
bitesizeboy t1_j21ekpg wrote
All of Baltimore is sketchy, you should just say where you are.
Edit: /s I guess. I'm just tired of seeing this type of post every other day. Cities have city problems. If you don't want to deal with that, move to the county.
ltong1009 t1_j21ht4i wrote
Yeah, Roland Park and Federal Hill are so sketch.
bitesizeboy t1_j21lmlr wrote
Mt.Washington is down right unsavory.
CaptainObvious110 t1_j231v1r wrote
You forgot locust point.
Ariesjawn t1_j23p4jj wrote
Riverside is a burning dumpster
CaptainObvious110 t1_j23tiiu wrote
So is brewers hill
old_at_heart t1_j2420ba wrote
Tuscany-Canterbury is Hell on Earth.
DvrthKen OP t1_j21goke wrote
Sorry Charlie, can’t do that :(
Timmah_1984 t1_j21k1yn wrote
When you’re looking up neighborhood safety ratings on websites those are largely useless. There is crime in every neighborhood in this city. Drive around the area in the day and after dark to get a feel for it. The BPD crime map can give you some insight too. Some neighborhoods have people breaking into parked cars and porch pirates. Others will have murders and assaults. It can change block to block too.