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50calPeephole t1_iu4bn9y wrote

Reply to comment by Chippopotanuse in Police confiscate loaded gun from 7-year-old at Dorchester school by rabblebowser

It's Dorchester, the kid could have found it on the way to the bus stop.

Not likely, but possible. Police investigate these things to make sure before they throw the book at someone they're throwing the book at the right person.

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Maxidaz t1_iu4i0hm wrote

i am sorry there are not guns just laying around on the streets of dorchester

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50calPeephole t1_iu4jfmk wrote

The statistical chance of recovering a dropped gun used in a crime in dorchester is not 0. Incidents do happen, hopefully these things are recovered responsibly by PD, but that is not always the case.

The sidewalk of dorchester isn't your neighborhood FFL, but let's not pretend nobody has ever found a gun in a bush there.

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inconspicuousmallard t1_iu4q6gz wrote

Happened to me and my friends when I was in like 5th grade

One of my friends picked it up, luckily some old dude saw and took it from us

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RogueInteger t1_iu4yd7h wrote

Been living in Dorchester for 5 years and have yet to find random guns on the side of the road.

But sure it could happen. Does it happen? It can/could, but I wouldn't be so general in saying it does happen in Dorchester. I don't think I know anyone that has found a glock just sitting on the side of the road.

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Livid_Bank_7341 t1_iu5cd6o wrote

well that’s because glocks are in very high demand, it’s more likely you’d find a Hi-Point sitting on the side of the road

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RogueInteger t1_iu5d2b2 wrote

There's actually a decent amount of nerf darts.

Some of these kids are wild.

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zaahc t1_iu4d5c5 wrote

Police don't throw the book at anyone, their teammates the prosecutors do. And police don't "make sure" the book is being thrown at the right person, they make sure the book recipient is someone that will be a likely win for the prosecutor. Often those are the same people, but there are plenty of times when it's not.

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50calPeephole t1_iu4lrwj wrote

Sure I have, and it's been getting better, but let's not pretend it's some bastion of paradise- generally speaking when it still ranks between a C and F on most contemporary neighborhood safety lists.

It's middle of the road when compared to other places in Boston, and it certainly isn't Fall River, but then again it's no Wayland either.

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RogueInteger t1_iu4yzfa wrote

Dorchester has roughly the same size population of Cambridge, and is as large as the next three neighborhoods of Boston combined.

The idea of broad brush strokes on such a large and diverse neighborhood is laughably out of touch.

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50calPeephole t1_iu52auc wrote

And yet just about every neighborhood reviewing system does it. Maybe the fantasy that Dorchester is a great place and not just an ok place is laughably out of touch.

The latest data indicates Dorchester's overall crime rate is 16.3 per 1k and its 2017 homicide rate was up and 12.8 per 100k.

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RogueInteger t1_iu5bq49 wrote

> And yet just about every neighborhood reviewing system does it.

Right, so the context is uneven because unlike things are being merged into like things. It's formulaically analyzing unlike places for comparison.

You can literally look at crime maps and discern this with little ambiguity. Same for murders.

You could draw a line down dot ave and have a vastly different result. The difference is that without understanding the size of the neighborhood, and the neighborhoods within it, the broad brush strokes aren't representative of the size and population of Dorchester nor does it represent each of the neighborhoods it's comprised of.

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50calPeephole t1_iu5dgtj wrote

I get what your saying, but for reporting dorchester is dorchester and the towns reputation is based on the reports generated within. This isn't a "It's that neighborhood's problem", the schools intermixed, the police and fireintermixed, quite simply, it's dorchester.

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RogueInteger t1_iu5eg0o wrote

There are problems unique to neighborhoods and streets within Dorchester. And to make geographically narrowly defined issues applicable to the broader space isn't sensible if you have any understanding of Dorchester at all.

You're bringing up weird data points that actually don't support your argument. Kids in Dorchester can register for schools in multiple neighborhoods outside of Dorchester, police precincts cover different areas of Dorchester (meaning you can't go into THE Dorchester PD HQ, you go into a precinct), and firestations are unique to even smaller precincts than the police. There's like 3 within a half mile of me.

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abhikavi t1_iu5cbqa wrote

> It's Dorchester, the kid could have found it on the way to the bus stop.

Statistically, way less likely than finding it laying around their own house.

I do think it's more plausible than the Lock Picking Lawyer safe-breaking wunderkind ideas being discussed above though.

I mean, I'm sure most responsible people toss their guns in the Charles after they're done with them for exactly this reason, so a kid doesn't pick one up on their way to school, but you can't count on everyone to be responsible.

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RelatableBojackMemes t1_iu5pklo wrote

Says someone who has never lived there...

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50calPeephole t1_iu5tnd1 wrote

Says someone who has no idea where the fuck I've lived and worked.

I specifically stated "not likely" but in the country I grew up in people were innocent until the facts proved their guilt. When this was published there were no facts on where the gun came from, and other potential explanations, even as indicated "not likely" are still possibilities.

I've literally linked a story of someone discarding a firearm running from the police in dorchester which was luckily recovered. I know its unpopular, but Dorchester isn't a paradise, it is meh to ok at best and had its own crime problems in certain neighborhoods, but guess what, those certain neighborhoods are still Dorchester.

These are all facts. I know it sucks when it's your own back yard but figures don't lie, Dorchester needs to do better. Don't pretend like I'm saying that you can walk to any street corner and pick up a glock like it's afganistan or something, nobody has ever said that, so calm down.

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RelatableBojackMemes t1_iui3e4o wrote

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>I specifically stated "not likely" but in the country I grew up in people were innocent until the facts proved their guilt.

My statement isn't saying it was the parents fault by any means. I did not say they were guilty of anything; I only stated that you're not from here. It is literally possible to find a gun anywhere where guns are sold and distributed legally and illegally and where gangs operate.

>I've literally linked a story of someone discarding a firearm running from the police in dorchester which was luckily recovered.

You could find a similar story in every city in America.

>These are all facts. I know it sucks when it's your own back yard but figures don't lie, Dorchester needs to do better.

Dorchester needs to do better? It's part of Boston. BOSTON needs to be better to itself and they could do it if they wanted to. The reason they don't is because City Hall doesn't understand the generational and familial violence that happens in these neighborhoods. They don't understand how gangs work, they don't understand how children are manipulated, all they do is over fund police and under fund violence prevention.

Like I said you're not from here. You don't know the issues just because you can Google a statistic. I dunno man. You just sound angry for no good reason.

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tacknosaddle t1_iu4cqqk wrote

>Police investigate these things to make sure before they throw the book at someone they're throwing the book at the right person.

Will this investigation take longer than the average time for a torch to burn out?

Asking for a friend.

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