theliontamer37 t1_j258qu0 wrote
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Yup chinas no covid approach worked well. Lmfao
OldCoaly t1_j25e9h9 wrote
Is this the part where we pretend there’s literally no middle ground between being welded into your own home and not being allowed to tell customers in your own business to wear a mask?
I think we should encourage vaccination as much as possible, allow businesses to enforce their mask rules if they see fit, not whine at people taking measures to protect themselves, and proudly call out people that think they are freedom fighters but actually just don’t want to be inconvenienced in any way by limiting their public presence when they have COVID or another contagious illness. Those people aren’t noble patriots fighting tyranny, they are jerks that think their desire not to be inconvenienced matters more than the health of otters.
Let’s be honest. Masks aren’t hard to wear. I played D1 volleyball with an n95. Don’t try to tell me it’s impossible to survive a trip to the stop and shop with a mask on. If your or anyone else’s lungs are that frail, a COVID infection will destroy you.
theliontamer37 t1_j25fu1h wrote
Where did I say it’s hard to wear a mask? I wore a mask even when they had those ridiculous rules in place where you had to wear em when you came into a bar, but could take them off and stand shoulder to shoulder with ppl once you had a drink. I got double booster as soon as I could, and I’ve had two boosters. I don’t judge ppl, or businesses, who choose to be cautious or choose to implement policies in their place of business. It wouldn’t stop me from visiting a store if I had to wear a mask. What I am against is the government forcing business to implement policies that they don’t want to at this point. Thats why my first comment said let everyone do what they’re comfortable with.
OldCoaly t1_j25mznd wrote
Sorry, I don’t want to put words in your mouth. You contrasted no rules with a literal authoritarian lockdown. The US was never enforcing anything like China has. Sure, some of the rules were ridiculous, but my whole point is there is gray area between the two extremes. I think mask mandates made complete sense earlier when there was little immunity, vaccine or natural, for the public. I haven’t seen any proposals yet for businesses, only BPS, and studies showed the effectiveness of the mandates in the schools. That’s the government setting the rules for a government-run system. I just reflexively have to respond when it seems people try to equate any restrictions at all with police barricading you in like China.
SomePolack t1_j25blyn wrote
Oh wow the place wher the virus originated is still dealing with it? I’m shocked.
theliontamer37 t1_j25bzry wrote
Lmfao yup. The country where it originated, whose been dealing with it the longest, implemented the longest and strictest lockdowns in the world and it still didn’t contain covid. Thanks for proving my point bud, appreciate it
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SomePolack t1_j25h97i wrote
Yeah except that’s not what’s happened in China but sure ok bud.
theliontamer37 t1_j25htpn wrote
Lmfao they were literally locking ppl in their homes. But ok
SomePolack t1_j25k5cm wrote
Yeah in the cities, you realize China is fucking massive right? You think every single person with COVID was locked in a room?
theliontamer37 t1_j25ksem wrote
I know the majority of ppl lived in and entered the cities were under strict covid lockdown restrictions and yet they still weren’t able to contain it. Which was my entire point.
SomePolack t1_j25p7e8 wrote
How could they contain something they were keeping silent? The spread in China was out of control before they could contain it because the CCP lied about it.
HoneydewOk1731 t1_j25bz9i wrote
It would have been physically impossible to prevent it from spreading to the US, unless all incoming flights were suspended. And we know how xenophobic that is perceived to be. The virus has entered endemic mode, and that’s a good thing
SomePolack t1_j25hhvj wrote
Shutting down all flights and then actually having people lockdown. Instead we let people do whatever they wanted and were shocked the virus kept spreading.
America never went into a full lockdown, not even close.
HoneydewOk1731 t1_j25lyss wrote
The lockdown would have to be never ending
SomePolack t1_j25oyi9 wrote
Not true, it ended before we ever got COVID under control so it wouldn’t have to be forever.
HoneydewOk1731 t1_j25pu6o wrote
Doesn’t matter. Unless the entire world agrees to the same lockdown measures, which may not have even worked the way you believe, the US would have to ban air travel indefinitely. I get that people want more reasons to hate Trump, but what you’re saying makes little sense
SomePolack t1_j25q48r wrote
I never even referenced the big bad tangerine and I think Biden has downplayed the pandemic for political unity.
All I’m saying is if I was in charge - we would’ve had no international travel as soon as the report hit my desk. Sort out to the problems later, save a million Americans.
HoneydewOk1731 t1_j25qcpo wrote
Would that travel ban extend into 2023? Because there are countries outside the US still experiencing covid
SomePolack t1_j25s0g2 wrote
Idk, we’re talking about hypotheticals here so who knows. Just saying I would’ve done a lot more than was done, if I had any say.
Definitely wouldn’t have told people not to worry and to keep gathering for holidays.
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