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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j93aj3t wrote

Reply to comment by scorpion_tail in Nuclear shadow, Nagasaki by allez05

Probably sounds mean, but honestly: the best way to go.

No chance of pain or fear = excellent.

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ExHax t1_j93fynm wrote

Yes imagine youre living elsewhere. Next day you hear your whole hometown where you grew up and your whole family died

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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j93gjhr wrote

And spontaneous nuclear vaporization is the best way for that person to not deal with the sadness.

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tofuonplate t1_j93ke7k wrote

That or incoming radioactive rain that kills you slowly

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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j93ld1w wrote

And if radioactive rain does hit you, what's the solution?

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tofuonplate t1_j93ltpw wrote

Guess you'll die.

(In WWII era nobody knew what it was so they would die. In modern age so many things will be contaminated by radioactive rain that you'll likely consume it anyway, unless you were far away from the blast zone there's barely any chance of survival)

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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j93pr8i wrote

I was hinting at the solution being spontaneous vaporization.

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tofuonplate t1_j93v7e9 wrote

Ah, my sincere apology. This is probably why I'm alone forever 😂

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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j93vipu wrote

No worries! It's not always easy to tell when someone is asking a serious question or just being deadpan.

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Nope_______ t1_j94fgrc wrote

There wasn't much long-lived radioactive material after the blasts from WWII. You could walk through either city no problem a few days after they were bombed. Weapons aren't reactors.

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mordinvan t1_j9515ye wrote

Depends on the dose. In low doses, coping with it, and facing an increased cancer risk. In high doses, rapid onset trans-cranial lead poisoning.

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a-very-angry-crow t1_j97q5nj wrote

Unless you’re that poor bastard who got nuked twice

Seriously, nobody has had a worse few days than that guy

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Phatcat15 t1_j93xh3e wrote

Oh they were the lucky ones (who died immediately)… the horror show for years afterwards is the real tragedy. It figures no one in Japan took Yamamoto seriously enough… he was a military genius and knew exactly what it would take to win the war - and openly questioned if anyone else in command understood what was to happen.

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magnum1odd t1_j98roxg wrote

Yeah. Definitely better way to go than seeing your entire body is burnt and there are hanging skins on arms while wanting to drink some water.

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hasnothingnice2say t1_j940cv2 wrote

9/11: 3,000 American civilians dead = 10 years of war in the Middle East

Nagasaki: 40,000 civilian deaths = to be honest a good way to go

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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j940q7d wrote

Way to strawman.

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hasnothingnice2say t1_j940xsf wrote

Way to spew American propaganda that killing 40,000 civilians is somehow in any measure a generous and kind act

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outsabovebad t1_j943t9n wrote

>killing 40,000 civilians is somehow in any measure a generous and kind act

Literally no one has said anything of that sort. They are simply saying that being instantly vaporized isn't a terrible way to go all things considered. Obviously civilians dieing sucks, but that's what total war is. America didn't start the war in the Pacific, but they were instrumental in ending it.

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hasnothingnice2say t1_j944oqn wrote

You’re literally saying it. There’s no toll when a death is quick? Because everyone who died is a bastard orphan right? Because none of those people were productive members of society right? That’s the fucked mentality of westerners in war. It’s about winning and not the human cost. That’s how you kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in Vietnam, Afghanistan. Both conflicts they US did not win.

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HaikuBotStalksMe t1_j949ual wrote

You dumbass. I'm an Afghan. So trying to play the white knight card fails.

Literally the best way to die when you die is instant vaporization. If you die from illness, you have prolonged pain. If you die from most violent means, you die with fear and pain. If you die while under the effect of drugs and whatnot, you mind dies happy, but your body's cells are still "panicked" and trying a last ditch effort to stay alive. Which, technically one could say doesn't matter because the cells aren't able to think, but it's still not a nice state.

But to go from "I'm alive" to fully obliterated? That's a very preferable alternative to go.

The issue is with permissions.

For example, the second best way to die is with anaesthesia being administered, along with happy drugs. Your mind will die a painless and calm and happy death.

But just like with being nuked against your permission, getting "euthanized" against your will is just as bad. But in terms of WAYS to die, atomic disintegration is excellent.

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molotov_billy t1_j94pxrq wrote

I’d be super interested in your take on the human cost of the war in the pacific if hadn’t ended with the use of atomic weapons.

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