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elshizzo t1_jcd0cn9 wrote

We're just repeating history. Before Glass Steagall was put into law in the 30s, we had a financial crisis every ~15 or so years. Now we're back on that pace, stupidly

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CerebralAccountant t1_jcd1iww wrote

Thank you so much for coloring and sorting by year! Those are extremely useful for understanding how many bank failures occurred in a certain period and their total amount.

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arkeod t1_jcd4hc0 wrote

What would Crédit Suisse look like?

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Kesshh t1_jcd94wp wrote

This is an awesome visual!

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Vipershark01 t1_jcdgdzc wrote

Wanna throw back Thursday and add the south sea company tomorrow?

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vk6flab t1_jcdggaa wrote

I'm sorry, but why are you showing two failures when there are three - so far - in 2023.

> Three US banks failed within five days, the most prominent was Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), the largest bank to fail since the 2008 crisis. > > Two days after SVB collapsed, state regulators closed New York-based Signature Bank and last week, crypto-focused bank Silvergate announced it would have to wind down its operations. > > And there are warnings of more closures to come.

Source: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2023/03/finance-expert-issues-stark-prediction-of-what-us-bank-will-fail-next-following-silicon-valley-bank-collapse.html

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kmmontandon t1_jcdhji9 wrote

Replying to vk6flab (#2,240,594)

Does Silvergate really count? It was basically a crypto inflated facade of a bank over the last five or six years. It’s actual value was pretty small once the bubble popped.

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Marklar172 t1_jcdnl3c wrote

My one criticism would be that using bubbles over time makes it look like, for example, the collapse of SVB played out over ~2 years, even though it was more like 2 days.

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StrugglingLifeform t1_jcdolk1 wrote

I haven’t seen a single one of these posts have a legend but all of them use different colors.

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Melodic-Fee-370 t1_jcdzbcu wrote

I had no idea this many banks failed in ~2008. Most discussion about the financial crisis focus on Lehman Bros

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Iaintnogaybear t1_jce1doa wrote

In my opinion, it should be adjusted for m2 (money supply). Inflation hasn’t gone up as fast as the money supply and I think it makes more sense to use that when comparing bank assets.

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TonyzTone t1_jce6pc1 wrote

Replying to Melodic-Fee-370 (#2,241,580)

Because Lehman was also huge and because it was so interconnected with so many other parts of the economy. If you notice, it’s not on here because Investment Banks aren’t really banks.

Otherwise, we should also be showing Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, Bear Sterns, AIG, and more. 2008 was a next level crisis.

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uthinkther4uam t1_jce766a wrote

Holy shit.

I was still in HS during the 08 recession so stuff like this didn't really come up on my radar, but I did NOT realize how many fucking banks failed in that timeframe.

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porncrank t1_jcebj92 wrote

There's been a lot of attempts to display this information -- I like this one the best so far. It gives context and a sense of scale the others lack. Well done.

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throwdroptwo t1_jcebzt0 wrote

Until the next ponzi scheme. Give it a nice name like desantis bank.

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Jakava t1_jcelel8 wrote

It's been interesting to see the evolution of this visual to something that actually conveys information well. Well done OP

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spca2001 t1_jcessc8 wrote

It would be nice to add a section on what political party, person of influence , financial entity each bank fail was blamed for

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grumd t1_jceyfkp wrote

I kinda think using diameter instead of area for the circles would make more sense. Because of the same reason why people struggle to understand that 18" pizza is more than two 12" pizzas. It's just not as intuitive for people. WMB here looks slightly bigger than SVB, but the numbers are more than twice as big.

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snekbat t1_jcf02me wrote

Insert GTA San Andreas meme here.

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dbacciPBI OP t1_jcf0erk wrote

Replying to 123fourfive67eight (#2,242,941)

Not a bad idea to be fair but the way Vega works, this would be a huge amount of work and I'm still not sure about the aesthetics of it. The interactive version has tooltips so it becomes pretty clear when hovering.

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pierre_x10 t1_jcfg0dk wrote

How much would this chart change if it included banks that might have also failed, but were propped up by the federal government's TARP Act? Or it would there be a way to include this taxpayer cost to the chart, if it doesn't make sense to include those banks' corresponding sizes?

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Ok-Lawfulness-5739 t1_jcfntf2 wrote

The Great Unraveling is here…. A Global Financial Crisis… Worse than 2008. 💀🔻

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moczak9 t1_jcfpyji wrote

imagine what this will look like when we add Credit Suisse to the list hahha

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srv50 t1_jcfx3oe wrote

Systemic risk vs dumbass risk.

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Nwcray t1_jcg33wu wrote

Replying to hawklost (#2,242,841)

And small regionals.

Anyway, your point stands. There were something like 30,000 banks in the US in 1980, 15,000 banks in 2008, and 4,000 banks today. Consolidation has been unreal.

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hawklost t1_jcg3ni4 wrote

Replying to Nwcray (#2,245,320)

It's actually always been fascinating to me, in the 40 years my mother has banked at the exact same location, it has been owned by 7 different banks.

Each time the smaller bank was bought out by a slightly larger one, that was then taken over by a third. Until now it is owned by one of the big 5 (has been for years now).

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CityZen101 t1_jchtc6h wrote

Saw the original and thought this extra would be good.

Might be good to have a reference circle (maybe floating in the background)for the biggest existing bank for reference too.

But love it either way

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insufferablyaverage t1_jcsbfg7 wrote

I wonder whst could have happened between 2008 and 2022 that would have possibly lead to banks between 100 billion and 250 billion to fail

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