Source of the data: https://sig.tse.jus.br/ords/dwapr/seai/r/sig-eleicao-comp-abst/faixa-et%C3%A1ria?session=209890620245796

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Brazil is one of the few countries with enforced mandatory voting (like Australia, Peru, Belgium and others)

As someone who used to think mandatory voting should be a thing accepted across the world but who later in life thought that I hated the idea someone could "cancel out" my vote because they were forced to, I think this is a great example of how with experience, I saw the other side.

What age group is making the stink of fraud?

Mostly older people (let's say 50+ yo). Generally speaking, young people voted for Lula, and old people (especially the evangelicals) voted for Bolsonaro.

It's mandatory, but the penalty is a small fine (0.80 us dollars) and you can pay it online now

what do you make of this mandatory voting? on one hand it sounds nice but on the other hand it's also perhaps forcing an opinion for those who don't have one

Idk about those countries, In India we have something called NOTA, which is none of the above...it was brought in to prevent fraudulent voting. Maybe they have something similar?

yes, we can vote blank or null

I'm from Brazil and I honestly don't like it.
I think most people don't. It sounds a little antidemocratic to make voting mandatory.

Also, it leens a lot for corruption as many politicians might (and do) buy votes of people that don't have political knowledge and otherwise woulnd't vote.

Seems like a healthy distribuition ngl

Australian here: I think mandatory voting is excellent. In countries without mandatory voting elections become more about trying to inflame your own base enough to actually show up- here politicians do actually have to try to appeal to the moderates a little. It also means trying to discourage your opposition from voting isn't a possible strategy.

In my experience most people make an effort to learn a bit about the candidates when they know they have to vote, even those without any interest in politics. But if you *really* don't want to vote, you don't actually have to submit a vote - you can just get your name checked off and put a blank ballot in the box and nobody will mind.

Voting is generally seen as your responsibility as a citizen here. It can be fun though, you get to meet some new people from your area, buy a couple of democracy sausages from the sausage sizzle... About 3/4 of Australians support compulsory voting.

What's the punishment for not voting? Do they ship you back to the UK?

Every race on this planet thinks that they are superior... I welcome all down votes

From a Brazil perspective, it is a way to guarantee voters' rights for the whole population. The mandatory part is not voting for a candidate, but it is showing up to vote (also, if you can't vote, it is like an R$3 fine). That law and some measures the government takes, like free public transportation for all and holiday on election day, are used to make sure the poorest of the people can vote.

Imagine this, your boss doesn't like who you will vote for, so he creates a job for you to work on the election day. For someone who is living paycheck to paycheck, they will choose work over voting.

In addition, if the vote wasn't mandatory, certain politicians would try to surpres votes. Vote is not mandatory, so why is election day a holiday? Vote is not mandatory, why is election day on a Sunday? Vote is not mandatory, why are we giving free transportation for all? By making an election mandatory, you are weakening those arguments.

In an ideal world, that wouldn't be necessary. However, voter suppression happens, and mandatory vote is a way to avoid this to happen.

Edit: Basically, mandatory vote makes the process more democratic because garantee the people's right to vote.

1.1% of brazilian voters are 100+ years old?

How makings the vote not mandatory stop these politicians from buying a vote?

No, the correct is: 1.1% of the Brazilian people with more than 100 years voted in the presidential elections

So there's potentially thousands of them.

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Yes. It’s not mandatory until you reach your 18th birthday, but it’s usually encouraged by teachers, family members etc.

Because loads of those people won't vote simply because they don't have to.

They can still vote blank or null. This doesn't answer anything

I'm from Belgium and we have mandatory voting. Well technically we don't, showing up is mandatory. You can just vote blank and cast your vote away and in paper votings you could just make a drawing or something and make it invalid, but nowadays most places are with computers so that got more difficult.

It's nice that nobody can try to prevent you from voting. You can't make it more difficult for certain groups to go to a voting station, your boss can't try to prevent you from going to vote because he doesn't like your political opinion, you just have to go and in the case that for some reason you can't make it, give power of attorney to someone else.

Having talked to my Aussie friends, a lot of it take it as an unserious joke if they have to do it, which is arguably worse than not voting to me. Idk, there’s an advantage to an electorate having a general amount of election literacy I think

That said thats just my experience and others can have other experiences.

around 24k http://recordtv.r7.com/jornal-da-record/videos/censo-revela-que-existem-no-brasil-quase-24-mil-pessoas-com-mais-de-100-anos-de-idade-25052022

Would be cool to compare it to the total population lf each range

Jesse what the hell are you talking about

Ok then.

You can spoil your ballot! Heck, you can spoil your ballot even if voting is voluntary.

Not really. Most polls show that Bolsonaro got more votes on 25-34y. No idea why...

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Here you can see the absolute numbers for each age group: https://sig.tse.jus.br/ords/dwapr/seai/r/sig-eleicao-comp-abst/faixa-et%C3%A1ria?session=112066366797619

Fine of about $20. So nothing serious, just enough to get people to show up.

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