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xenocles_the_lesser t1_j0hombc wrote

What happened early this year?

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Dutchwells t1_j0hotoc wrote

Oh I don't know, something with a pandemic or something. Can't remember exactly

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xenocles_the_lesser t1_j0hpimi wrote

The disease that started in 2019, for which we got a vaccine in 2021, spiked the death rate so high in early 2022 that not just one, but two contour lines apply only to that period?

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rabbiskittles t1_j0ih95l wrote

I was right there with you thinking there’s no reason COVID would cause a random spike right there, but I looked it up and apparently there was a huge spike in cases right around then: https://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/covid_briefs/101_briefing_Canada.pdf

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xenocles_the_lesser t1_j0inx3r wrote

There definitely was a COVID spike at that time. But if you look at Figure 3.1 in the report, which seems to match the shape of the Worldometer graph I looked at first (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/) I see a death spike that isn't appreciably higher than the ones before, and possibly skinnier. While COVID might have contributed to this total death rate peak, I am not at all convinced that it was the major driver of it.

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foldingcouch t1_j0iv584 wrote

Two things:

  • Hospitals everywhere in Canada are short on staff and high on cases as COVID continues to be a thing and ...
  • The flu is particularly bad this year, with a ton of pediatric patients eating up a lot of hospital beds and resources

So we have a double-hit of COVID season and flu season hitting at a time when hospital resources are already stretched beyond capacity - people are going to die.

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xenocles_the_lesser t1_j0iy3m4 wrote

You're saying "are" as if you're talking about the present flu season. Just to be clear, this spike was at the end of January.

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mmarollo t1_j0hx3m1 wrote

Shh! Do you want to get banned?

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fwubglubbel t1_j0ijn7o wrote

A simple line graph would be much more effective. This is just hideous.

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lopjoegel t1_j0ho3wd wrote

Okay.

Setting a lower bound for the modeling of 4000 seems to exaggerate the peak range.

Deaths peaked at about double the normal.

Keep in mind that boomers are getting older so the trending for deaths is up as well over the past 10 years.

Statistics can paint a picture but it is abstract and easily distorted.

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OlibriusR OP t1_j0ikm8b wrote

About the scale, we could say that this graph shows excess deaths?

We ca see the boomers trend in the concentric color arcs. (gradual increase per period)

The peaks are anomalies.

Let see this graph in 3-4 years. It should show the same trend without peaks (hopefully).

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BaboonBaller t1_j0l996a wrote

I really like this graph. That being said, the population has grown significantly over the span of this report. Let’s say that trend continues, then the number of deaths will grow over time as well (more people exist to die). What I’d like to see is the graph adjusted for population, like financial reports are adjusted for inflation. Then we can see death rates as a percentage of population over time. Please forgive me if this was already incorporated into it. Great graphic

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aa821 t1_j0ky4ml wrote

Imagine being a "developed country" while having the sixth leading cause of death be government sanctioned suicide 😭 what a joke of a nation

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Trombone66 t1_j0m3wc4 wrote

If assisted suicide didn’t occur, the death rate would be the same. Those deaths would just move into different categories. However, if human suffering could be graphed, I can only imagine how much higher it would be without assisted suicide.

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[deleted] t1_j0locf5 wrote

One in every crowd

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aa821 t1_j0lxbm6 wrote

Did I say something wrong, or are you just uncomfortable that these facts shed light on the status quote of contemporary political discourse?

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The_Real_Tippex t1_j0tg22p wrote

I’m just wondering why most deaths happen early in the year.

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