DeadNotSleeping86 t1_j1g8tj5 wrote
Important note that wealth is not a zero sum game. There isn't a finite amount of it to go around. It's possible for everyone to get wealthier on average, and the data appears to reflect this.
sillychillly OP t1_j1g9qjn wrote
The data shows a disproportionate amount of wealth increasing for people the richest among us.
That’s the issue.
It’s fine for everyone’s life to get exponentially better. But it’s not cool when a small percentage of people are becoming obscenely more wealthy while most people become poorer
freerangetacos t1_j1gezpg wrote
"May the odds be ever in your favor!"
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JohnCocktoastener t1_j1gh51m wrote
People aren’t becoming poorer
chaandra t1_j1gnkrq wrote
In certain ways, they are. In terms of owning a home, they are. In terms of supporting family on one income, they are. In terms of paying for goods, they are.
sillychillly OP t1_j1gjqqu wrote
Inflation has outpaced many people working class wages. It’s not just this years inflation, it’s inflation overtime
SerialStateLineXer t1_j1kvno8 wrote
False. Real median wages (real means adjusted for inflation) have been growing for decades. 25th-percentile wage data doesn't go back as far, but since 2000, real 25th-percentile wages are up 18%.
Intoxinator t1_j1gvd4b wrote
On this we agree. Excessive, reckless spending is driving this. How much did the US Gov just agree to spend? How many trillions of dollars? And for what? This won’t end well if we continue on this path.
urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_j1h2gm8 wrote
Is more how the profit of our effort has been distributed than how much the goverment spent
And studies show that goverment spending has a weak effect on inflation
https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/08/25/does-government-spending-cause-inflation/
The issue with wealth inequality is that a very small percent of the population gets an even bigger increase of the cake and contributing less to the common wealth, ehile the middle classes and the poor see hardly any increase in wealth
like Uncle scrooge said, the hardest part is to make the first million
Intoxinator t1_j1h3nju wrote
“Aggregate demand might increase because there is an increase in spending by consumers, businesses or government, or an increase in net exports. As a result, demand for goods and services will increase relative to their supply, providing scope for firms to increase prices (and their margins – which is their mark-up on costs). At the same time, firms will seek to employ more workers to meet this extra demand. With increased demand for labour, firms may have to offer higher wages to attract new staff and retain their existing employees. Firms may also increase the prices of their goods and services to cover their higher labour costs.[2] More jobs and higher wages increase household incomes and lead to a rise in consumer spending, further increasing aggregate demand and the scope for firms to increase the prices of their goods and services. When this happens across a large number of businesses and sectors, this leads to an increase in inflation.”
US just pumped a trillion dollars of spending into the economy. That’s not going to be a weak effect on inflation.
urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_j1h5dhb wrote
The link i provided refer to that
so the while the case study of St lous federal reserve indicate that goverment spending had little to no effect
On the other hand, modern studies have found that the current link between government spending and inflation may be stronger.In particular, the 2022 inflation spike followed two major federalspending programs under two administrations. The first, the CARES Act, passed in March 2020, while the American Rescue Plan passed in March 2021.Collectively, these initiatives aimed to minimize the economicdevastation of Covid-19 by distributing three stimulus checks, expanding unemployment benefits and providing extra funds to state and local governments.While experts have credited these Acts with possibly preventing a recession, economists have also found that their passage correlates with an unusual spike in inflation. By providing extra capital to American households, economists note, consumers were able to go out and spend money they wouldn’t have had otherwise. In turn, this increased consumer demand, pulling up prices.However, a recent analysis from the San Francisco Federal Reservefound that government spending only contributed to about threepercentage points of today’s inflation. These findings corroborate an October 2021 paper that suggested stimulus checks made inflation slightly worse – but not to the extent we’re seeing now
basically if they are right goverment spending may affect inflation depending on how is been used but is not the cause the main reasons for the current inflation we are seeing
Intoxinator t1_j1h4j2c wrote
Also, some irony in a post from Forbes to support your argument. Particularly given that the contributor was Q.ai founded by Stephen Mathai-Davis who was undoubtedly part of the 1% being targeted in this post.
urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_j1h7h3r wrote
You mean the rest of the economist are low paid working class?
your link what can cause inflation
mine refer to the actual result when they quantized for the effect of goverment spending
if you found that St lous federal reserve and st Francisco federal reserve studies have no merit, fine point to it
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ExploratoryCucumber t1_j1hmde4 wrote
Yes there is. Do you think countries can just print infinite money? Do you think the world has infinite resources?
Stop getting your opinions from garbage econ propaganda
OnAPrair t1_j1hv4gw wrote
- Countries do print money
- Wealth is not just money. The size of the pie shrinks and grows.
ExploratoryCucumber t1_j1hvdlv wrote
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Yeah? What happens when they do that?
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However you slice it, the pie isn't infinite.
OnAPrair t1_j1i39pr wrote
They cannot print infintitly there is a give and take, and you are correct the pie isn’t infinite. I agree that scarcity exists.
ExploratoryCucumber t1_j1iud8g wrote
Nice so what exactly is the point of your comment if you agree with what I said
Intoxinator t1_j1gv16p wrote
That’s a nuanced argument that’s not welcome here. Totally agree.
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